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  • #92660

    james
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    With TD’s outdoor PBs adding up to circa 3829 that makes 8409 approx. That would be excellent.
    Surely he can in a year or two improve his 400m times as a man with good sprint speed and as for the 1500m it must get better. Loses him a lot of points.

    #92670

    tom
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    Duckworth was a talented junior, but I never saw his 100/LJ developing the way it has. Hope he gets a score tomorrow that reflects his ability. It’s going to be great again to see a British decathlete featuring in global competitions.

    #93173

    Geoff
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    A good start to the second day for Tim Duckworth with a solid 14.59 hurdles and then a big personal best in the discus of 44.12. Can he finish well?

    #93212

    Geoff
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    Only 4.67 in the pole vault. Something was wrong for a 5.26 vaulter and start at 4.47 then take each height and struggle to clear second and third attempts. Injured?

    Hopefully, he is fit enough to finish reasonably well and score 8100/8200.

    #93238

    Hayden
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    Only 4.67 in the pole vault. Something was wrong for a 5.26 vaulter and start at 4.47 then take each height and struggle to clear second and third attempts. Injured?

    Hopefully, he is fit enough to finish reasonably well and score 8100/8200.

    No one managed to get higher than 4.67m bar one athlete… perhaps the conditions are not ideal?

    #93251

    Hayden
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    Although after throwing 54.60m he passed on his next two attempts so you may be right. Seems a bit odd after setting multiple PBs yesterday.

    He could run a 5.25 in this final 1500m and it would still see him finish with an 8100 score.

    #93255

    Geoff
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    Took one throw in the javelin (54.60) then passed his remaining throws. Suggests he’s got some sort of injury. Needs 5.07 in the 1500 to score 8200.

    #93259

    Geoff
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    I assume he vaulted off a short run up hence the low starting height and 10cm progression. The others seemed to vault to their ability so probably a niggle (hamstring again?). Hopefully nothing too serious. He can jog the 1500 in 5.47 and still score 8000 points.

    #93272

    Geoff
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    8145pts for Duckworth. Moves up to 4th on the UK all-time list.

    #93277

    Geoff
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    Maicel Uibo won with 8407 with Johannes Erm third with 8020. 8 athletes started with 5 finishing and 3 over 8000 points. Small field but high standard.

    #93278

    Hayden
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    Is this his last year in the collegiate system?

    #93286

    Lorraine
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    Yep his final year in College. Hopefully nothing too serious injury wise & the right thing to do to take it easy rather than aggravate things.

    He’s got 2 Months until the NCAA so decent amount of time to recover. He’s clearly got a 8300-8400 score in him.

    As well as qualifying for NCAA that’s also comfortably qualified him for the Europeans. Hopefully Ashley Bryant will be back from injury also by then. Outside of the Commonwealth Games, I wonder when the last time 2 British Decathletes competed at a major champs?

    #93314

    Hayden
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    Yep his final year in College. Hopefully nothing too serious injury wise & the right thing to do to take it easy rather than aggravate things.

    He’s got 2 Months until the NCAA so decent amount of time to recover. He’s clearly got a 8300-8400 score in him.

    As well as qualifying for NCAA that’s also comfortably qualified him for the Europeans. Hopefully Ashley Bryant will be back from injury also by then. Outside of the Commonwealth Games, I wonder when the last time 2 British Decathletes competed at a major champs?

    Could we be three GB athletes at the Euros if Lane or Gregory can get the standard too, since 7850 is a score within their capabilities. Maybe they’ll achieve it at the Commonwealths.

    BA seem to have settled for more achievable standards this year. Trials could be very interesting this year!

    #93656

    Matt
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    19.75 from Steven Gardner who has pulled out of the CWG

    #93663

    Richard
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    Yep his final year in College. Hopefully nothing too serious injury wise & the right thing to do to take it easy rather than aggravate things.

    He’s got 2 Months until the NCAA so decent amount of time to recover. He’s clearly got a 8300-8400 score in him.

    As well as qualifying for NCAA that’s also comfortably qualified him for the Europeans. Hopefully Ashley Bryant will be back from injury also by then. Outside of the Commonwealth Games, I wonder when the last time 2 British Decathletes competed at a major champs?

    IIRC we had Alex Kruger and Eugene Gilkes at the 1990 Europeans so that may have been the last time. Brad McStravick competed alongside Daley T at a Champs or two.

    #93775

    Gavin
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    65 minute half-marathons seem to be becoming almost commonplace for the women. Joan Chelimo Melly (previous PB 65:37) won the Prague Half yesterday in 65:04, going #4 on the all-time list. She went through 5k in 14:51 and 10k in 30:14!

    #95603

    Gavin
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    The Boston Marathon is this Monday 16th and it’s on the BBC, online and on the app – http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/athletics/43741426.
    The stream starts around 2.15/2.20pm. The Women’s race starts at 2.32pm, the Men’s at 3pm.

    In the men’s race Galen Rupp goes up against world champion Geoffrey Kirui again, as well as Tamirat Tola, Lesisa Desisa etc.

    However, the women’s race is more hotly anticipated with the match-up of Flanagan, Hasay, Huddle & Linden. All the talk is of one of these ladies possibly becoming the first American woman to win Boston since 1985. They are up against Edna Kiplagat & Mergia though.

    It’s 6 years since Molly Huddle lost on the roads to an American woman. I make that around 30 to 35 races since she races on the roads quite a bit. She’s also never lost to Jordan Hasay on any surface in 11 races. Her coach, Ray Treacy, says right now she’d be in shape to run 2:20 on a flat course.

    Will Jordan Hasay continue her ascent though? We know she likes Boston having run 2:23-flat in her debut marathon here last year. Or can Shalane Flanagan win a 2nd consecutive major marathon, the one she’s always dreamed of winning?

    Previews & press conference stuff at http://www.letsrun.com/events/2018-boston-marathon/.

    Also Stateside, the track meets start to ramp up with the Mt Sac Relays starting on the 19th – always the scene of some big performances – and Penn Relays & Drake Relays the following week.

    #95679

    Gavin
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    For those without a ‘connected TV’, the Boston Marathon is also on the Red Button at 2.20pm tomorrow.

    #95737

    Caspar
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    Possibly missed over the weekend with all the Commonwealth Games action (although true fans like Philipo will undoubtedly have been keeping a close eye on such a historic race), but in the National 12 Stage 20 year old Alex Yee ran a 24:57 long leg. For context, Steve Jones’ best on this course was 24:53 and Mo Farah ran 25:27 in 2006, the year he got Silver at the European 5000m. After 13:37 last year as a Junior, and I think focusing fully on running now, expect some fireworks from him this summer.

    #95761

    Gavin
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    Aha! Two surprise winners in the Boston Marathon – the Iron Man of the marathon, Yuki Kawauchi, winning his first World major and Desi Linden, the American very few were talking about, winning her first.

    The conditions were awful – driving rain, very windy and a ‘real-feel’ of below freezing – and had the effect of absolutely decimating the field in the 2nd half of the race. Some, like Molly Huddle, could barely put one foot in front of the other by the end. Only 3 men broke 2:20 and only one woman broke 2:40.

    In the men’s Geoffrey Kirui led by 90 seconds but then with 2 miles to go he completely cracked. He still managed to hang on to 2nd but was shuffling painfully like Huddle at the end.

    I follow the American distance scene closely and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of the 2nd placer, Sarah Sellers, and I’m barely aware of the 4th placer, Rachel Hyland.

    The guy who manages Kawauchi and was his interpreter for his interview is Brett Larner – those of you who read the excellent Japan Running News site will know the name.

    Possibly missed over the weekend with all the Commonwealth Games action (although true fans like Philipo will undoubtedly have been keeping a close eye on such a historic race), but in the National 12 Stage 20 year old Alex Yee ran a 24:57 long leg. For context, Steve Jones’ best on this course was 24:53 and Mo Farah ran 25:27 in 2006, the year he got Silver at the European 5000m. After 13:37 last year as a Junior, and I think focusing fully on running now, expect some fireworks from him this summer.

    Yeah, cracking run by Alex Yee. Top 20 all-time on that course (most of the legends of British distance running having done it) and the only sub-25 this century I think. Shame though that the road relays rarely attract the best of the best anymore. There was no-one sub-15 on the short leg where the course record is 13:23!

    #95766

    james
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    The Boston Marathon is this Monday 16th and it’s on the BBC, online and on the app – http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/athletics/43741426.
    The stream starts around 2.15/2.20pm. The Women’s race starts at 2.32pm, the Men’s at 3pm.

    In the men’s race Galen Rupp goes up against world champion Geoffrey Kirui again, as well as Tamirat Tola, Lesisa Desisa etc.

    However, the women’s race is more hotly anticipated with the match-up of Flanagan, Hasay, Huddle & Linden. All the talk is of one of these ladies possibly becoming the first American woman to win Boston since 1985. They are up against Edna Kiplagat & Mergia though.

    It’s 6 years since Molly Huddle lost on the roads to an American woman. I make that around 30 to 35 races since she races on the roads quite a bit. She’s also never lost to Jordan Hasay on any surface in 11 races. Her coach, Ray Treacy, says right now she’d be in shape to run 2:20 on a flat course.

    Will Jordan Hasay continue her ascent though? We know she likes Boston having run 2:23-flat in her debut marathon here last year. Or can Shalane Flanagan win a 2nd consecutive major marathon, the one she’s always dreamed of winning?

    Previews & press conference stuff at http://www.letsrun.com/events/2018-boston-marathon/.

    Also Stateside, the track meets start to ramp up with the Mt Sac Relays starting on the 19th – always the scene of some big performances – and Penn Relays & Drake Relays the following week.

    Hasay did not start.. got injury probs and Flanagan was well beaten in to 5th?

    #95801

    larkim
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    A bit like Formula 1 where a wet race improves the spectacle, the same applied to Boston. So rarely are two minutes leads opened up and then clawed back like that in both gender races, and rarer too for two of the lesser players to rise to the top. Was great to watch, especially Kawauchi – it was a day of conditions etc made for someone like him. He was the only elite to get anywhere near his all time PB, so for him this was both a harder effort than anyone else managed as well as the biggest win of his career. And there’s no substitute for experience, and he will have run and raced over a marathon in conditions more like those in Boston far more times than most other elites in the race.

    Both Linden and Kawauchi are more robust builds, and I think this definitely helped them both too.

    Normal service for marathon conditions will resume on Sunday. I see Mo has bib number 13…

    #95804

    Gavin
    Participant

    A look at Yuki Kawauchi’s stats – that was his 79th sub-2:20 marathon in his 81st marathon!
    53 of them sub-2:15
    26 of them sub-2:12
    12 of them sub-2:10.
    He’s won 34 marathons including 8 of his last 10.

    If he remains healthy he should be able to reach the 100 sub-2:20s before the Tokyo Olympics no problems!

    Philipo, yes, Hasay had an MRI that revealed a stress fracture. Flanagan finished 7th, beaten by a woman from the mass race. Huddle 16th, outside 2:50!

    #95805

    larkim
    Participant

    Just looking at the press pack that VLM produce, on a good weather day even if you are racing for “just” a place there are some decent time bonuses available. If the weather in London were to be as it was in Boston, you’d be on the start line knowing a) that it would be a hard day at the office and b) that you probably weren’t going to bring home as much cash as you had hoped. In those circumstances I can readily understand some of the DNFs from the elite fields as running for almost nothing, way outside your PB, would be soul destroying! It may be their jobs, but if they are getting paid peanuts for it (relatively) even the best of us would lose some motivation.

    Women’s & mens place prize pot for London:-
    1 $55,000
    2 $30,000
    3 $22,500
    4 $15,000
    5 $10,000
    6 $7,500
    7 $5,000
    8 $4,000
    9 $3,000
    10 $2,000
    11 $1,500
    12 $1,000

    Women’s time bonus pots
    2:18:00 $100,000
    2:20:00 $75,000
    2:22:00 $50,000
    2:23:00 $25,000
    2:24:00 $15,000
    2:25:00 $10,000
    2:26:00 $5,000
    2:27:00 $3,000
    2:28:00 $1,000

    Men’s time bonus pots
    2:05:00 $100,000
    2:06:00 $75,000
    2:07:00 $50,000
    2:08:00 $25,000
    2:08:30 $15,000
    2:09:00 $10,000
    2:09:30 $5,000
    2:10:00 $3,000
    2:11:00 $1,000

    #95806

    larkim
    Participant

    Update – Boston doesn’t award time bonuses, so the elites should just have stuck it out!!

    Boston prize pots:-
    PLACE MEN WOMEN
    1 $150,000$150,000
    2 $75,000 $75,000
    3 $40,000 $40,000
    4 $25,000 $25,000
    5 $15,000 $15,000
    6 $12,000 $12,000
    7 $9,000 $9,000
    8 $7,400 $7,400
    9 $5,700 $5,700
    10 $4,200 $4,200
    11 $2,600 $2,600
    12 $2,100 $2,100
    13 $1,800 $1,800
    14 $1,700 $1,700
    15 $1,500 $1,500

    $353,000 $353,000

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