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  • #79577

    Gavin
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    Is it too much to ask for PBs and SBs on the introduction graphics? Instead we have the athlete’s country effectively repeated because it’s also above with the 3 letter code.
    You’d think one of the former athletes on the BBC team would have a word with the production team?

    #79578

    tom
    Participant

    7.53m LJ to add to yesterday’s HJ for Dominic Ogbechie, and I thought the 200m was his best event.

    #79579

    Gavin
    Participant

    Sweden’s Khaddi Sagnia sneaking up as a contender for Long Jump gold in Birmingham? 6.92 NR in the 1st round. She’ll also be in the 60 Hurdles next week.

    #79580

    Gavin
    Participant

    Wow, on that slow-mo Bosworth wasn’t even close to maintaining contact with the ground!

    #79581

    Lisa
    Participant

    I can’t take the walk all 5hat seriously, but well done to Tom Bosworth for a new WR.

    #79589

    Lisa
    Participant

    Super run by Dina there.

    #79591

    Gavin
    Participant

    Neither Thompson nor Schippers looked good in the heats.

    #79601

    Matt
    Participant

    I didn’t see that NR from Chepkoech coming, that was impressive, Dibaba will have her work cut out next weekend.

    Some very good sprinting by our athletes, Ojie beating CJ twice, Dina looks in fine shape for the Commies, fingers crossed Shaunae MU agrees to do the 200.

    #79603

    SteveK26
    Participant

    The meet wasn’t a great confidence builder for the British athletes competing next week.

    It looked likely that Dasher would break the British indoor record after that semi, but she seemed to tighten up in the final.

    I just can’t be fussed about race walking, but was that the only win all day for GB?

    I might have to scale my expectations radically downward after that…….

    #79604

    Lisa
    Participant

    Chepkoech was very impressive.

    #79605

    SteveK26
    Participant

    …..why wasn’t Edoburun interviewed after beating Ujah and Gemili?

    He was the one that got a PB.

    #79611

    james
    Participant

    it would be illuminating to hear the positive spin put on this meet and more particularly the poor and second rate performances by our athletes in their own backyard…DAS is only one athlete and she will be somewhere else very soon.
    Our male sprinters and the great Ujah… awful. The whole range of those British efforts at 400m, 800m, 1500m, short hurdles etc… too indifferent to say much about.Didnt notice anything inspirational.
    As for my expectations from the British athletes in Brum , in Gold coast… least said.

    No doubt Mr.Black will spin out some ……. that’s what he is paid for after all.

    #79619

    james
    Participant

    At least a bit of comfort via Zarnel Hughes the British ? sprinter who beat Blake in a WL outdoor 10.01. in Jamaica

    #79620

    dave
    Participant

    barring pozzi and sawyers who underperformed? – our better athletes all put in reasonable performances and the weaker ones performed as expected, less than 15 of the of the roughly 100 strong scottish and english commonwealth games teams competed today, ujah was 0.04 off his pb and gemili equalled his

    #79689

    Matt
    Participant

    I wouldn’t draw too many conclusions from today’s performances, a lot of our medal prospects for next week weren’t there.

    #79722

    Speed
    Participant

    Am I alone in finding it really distasteful and at the very least unsporting that the BBC and AW are celebrating the setting of a World Best 3k Walk, when to everyone that watched the event ……apart from the judges!! could plainly see that the winner was lifting i.e. cheating!!
    In almost every sport these days there is some sort of video playback to assist officials make the right decision. The BBC clearly showed that Tom Bosworth was running. By his own admission he said that it was difficult for the human eye to see that the correct technique was being used and yet moments before slow mo had shown that he was deceiving the officials.
    Is it time for some sort of modern technology to be applied if the human eye can’t cope?

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    #79727

    SteveK26
    Participant

    Racewalking

    It looks awkward, virtually everyone who walks fast is ‘lifting’, and it takes forever.

    Whoever invented a 50k event for major champs must have a warped mind! If they used modern technology to detect cheating the event would be turned upside down, but for some (political?) reason they choose not to.

    I wouldn’t have it all (sorry Tom).

    #79728

    Gavin
    Participant

    It did seem to be one of the more obvious examples of lifting. Usually when you see the slow-mos, if they’re lifting it’s by an inch or less and understandably would be very difficult to see by the human eye. Bosworth’s foot, however, must have been 3 or 4 inches in the air before his other heel was striking.

    It was reported in late 2016 that the IAAF are working on “electronic insoles” with a view to trialling a system in competitions ahead of the 2019 IAAF World Championships:

    An electronic detection system project to create a definitive judging system for race walking events in time for the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) 2019 World Championships has now moved to the design stage, the IAAF Council heard on the first of their two days of meetings here.

    Contracts have been signed to construct two pre-industrial demonstration prototypes featuring shoe insoles with sensors to detect loss of contact by race walkers.

    Walkers must have one foot in contact with the ground at all times.

    Any failures to do so are currently detected by race walking judges and sanctioned with an escalation of punishments culminating in disqualification when three different judges call a foul on a competitor.

    One of the prototypes will be used in training and another for competition, with the timeline of the project being 18 months.

    The results of this project will then be considered by the Race Walking Committee in order to draw-up a rule change proposal which would then need to be considered by the Technical Committee and approved by Council.

    The goal is to be able to trial a system in competitions ahead of the 2019 IAAF World Championships.

    Source: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1044253/electronic-insoles-to-judge-lifting-in-race-walking-come-a-step-closer-iaaf-council-hears

    #79733

    tom
    Participant

    Race walking, why don’t they transfer it to the Winter Olympics. I don’t watch either, it takes forever, and there’s loads of airtime to fill.

    #79734

    SteveK26
    Participant

    Luckyspikes

    The technology is surely available already.

    They just choose not to use it. If I had my cynical hat on I’d say there was a powerful lobby who don’t want to use it.

    #79736

    Gavin
    Participant
    Luckyspikes

    The technology is surely available already.

    They just choose not to use it. If I had my cynical hat on I’d say there was a powerful lobby who don’t want to use it.

    Maybe.

    As an endurance event it’s something I want to enjoy but, as it stands, I just can’t trust what I’m seeing is fair (any doping issues aside!)

    Technology could solve that and I think the spectacle would be improved if they linked the data up to on-screen graphics where you could see in real-time which of the leaders has a warning/s. At the moment viewers are at the mercy of the commentators who often don’t seem sure themselves about who has been warned.

    #79737

    larkim
    Participant

    Surely they don’t use it because the rules are drafted as to be judged by the “naked eye”. Slo-mo replays, contact shoes etc are all irrelevant if the test to be applied by a referee on the course is their naked eye view only.

    Plus, too much fixation on the ground contact – the straight leg element is equally (if not more) important in the RW technique.

    Part of me shares the cynicism that it might be difficult to get a good enough cabal of referees to judge a “sprint” walk like that in the face of a home crowd and an exhibition race, but equally if performances are being certified WRs then all the right levels of judging are in place – there’s a large conspiracy theory being conjured up if everyone is “in” on the act to promote Bosworth because he’s a nice chap (I doubt he has the financial means to buy them all off!!!)

    Just like the heavy throws, RWing doesn’t really interest me much. But that doesn’t stop me from respecting the achievements.

    In the end, the only one who’ll get found out is Bosworth himself if he finds he races fast in the UK with UK judges, but internationally gets DQ’d all over the place because different standards are applied.

    #79809

    Gavin
    Participant

    A world U20 indoor record for Sydney McLaughlin yesterday, 50.52, breaking Sanya R-R’s record. Lynna Irby who’s only 19 herself was just behind in 50.62.
    An hour later, Irby won the 200 in 22.66 WL.

    Armand Duplantis broke another record (5.88 for a World U20 indoor record) in a historically deep PV competition at Clermont-Ferrand – 8 men cleared 5.81 with a further 2 at 5.73!

    #79822

    SteveK26
    Participant
    barring pozzi and sawyers who underperformed? – our better athletes all put in reasonable performances and the weaker ones performed as expected, less than 15 of the of the roughly 100 strong scottish and english commonwealth games teams competed today, ujah was 0.04 off his pb and gemili equalled his

    There were not too many top names from GB, fair enough.
    Pozzi and Sawyers, as you say, underperformed.

    So did Doyle, Anuora, Langford, Sharp and Ujah.
    And Yasmin Miller missed an opportunity to run fast by falling over.

    The best British male sprinter turned out to be the man continually snubbed by UK Athletics, ie Edoburun. The BBC didn’t interview him either, yet they took the trouble to talk to the two who finished behind him.

    I cant find too much good spin to put on that meet from a GB point of view, sadly. Lets file it in the mediocre basket, and hope for better in Birmingham.

    #79831

    Justrunfast
    Participant

    Very impressed by Ojie Ebdoburun, but it this way the guy is currently a tenth ahead of where he was this time last year at 60m.

    I’m calling 9.9 outdoors…..

    I don’t know really know what to make of the whole indoors, especially as some have chosen the commonwealth games instead.

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