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Selection news for the Commonwealth Games (team announced)

Postby d pickup » Sat May 08, 2010 12:07 pm

The aim of this topic is to record:

1 who has been selected for Delhi (6-14oct10)
2 who has declared they'll give Delhi a miss

& AFTER the final selections have been announced:

3 those who might have also been / instead selected
4 predictions of how team members might do
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The Selection policy documents can be downloaded (including separate document for walks/mar):

see
www.englandathletics.org/page.asp?secti ... Games+2010

Selection day:
- for all events except walks/mar: 18aug10
- for walks/mar: ongoing, and finally 18aug10
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Selected so far:
W 20kw Johanna Jackson, '85, Middlesbrough & Cleveland/Redcar/Leeds Metropolitan Uni, PB 1.31.16, '09
M mar Andi Jones, 78, Salford H, PB 2.15.20, '09
W mar Helen Decker, '79, Ipswich Jaffa, PB 2.36.56, '10

Giving Delhi a miss (this section might already need adding to):
W HEP athletes Kelly Sotherton and Jessica Ennis.
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Postby d pickup » Wed May 12, 2010 4:21 pm

We feel prompted & justified in diverting from the topic's initial remit:

'AUSTRALIA'S three-time Olympic silver medallist Raelene Boyle, who competed at Munich 1972, the Games marred by terrorist attacks on Israeli athletes, said she would not be surprised if athletes opt out of competing at Delhi 2010.'

see
www.morethanthegames.co.uk/athletics/11 ... r-concerns

Even before the first gun has been fired / 'No.3333 your turn' has been uttered, there are scare stories re the Delhi CGs. Is this a reflection of the media hype that can accompany the security aspects of any big gathering or is there something that prompts thoughts of real threats?
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Another remit+:

'Delhi’s air pollution may take athletes’ breath away' ... with it's 16M people/5M vehicles ... a few disqueting observations.

see
www.thestar.com/sports/olympics/article ... reath-away
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Postby SteveK26 » Wed May 12, 2010 10:30 pm

Sorry to be negative, but Delhi was a rotten choice of venue.

I love the Commonwealths, but this year could see it damaged if we get boycotts and/or athlete withdrawals.

Why was Delhi chosen?
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Postby d pickup » Thu May 13, 2010 10:46 am

'The two principal bids for the 2010 Commonwealth Games were from Delhi, India and Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. A ballot of members was held in November 2003 at the Commonwealth Games Federation General Assembly in Montego Bay, Jamaica. Delhi bid won by a margin of 46 votes to 22'

see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Commonwealth_Games
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Just as there is an attempt to see the different continents host the OLY so I guess the CGs powers that be want to see the CG moved around.
Interesting though that CAN had the CG in '94 & Asia (via Malaysia) had the games in '98, but an Asian offer was preferred over a CAN one for '10. Anyway Delhi it is. So which continent should have it in '18?

I 1930 Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
II 1934 London, England
III 1938 Sydney, Australia
IV 1950 Auckland, New Zealand
V 1954 Vancouver, Canada
VI 1958 Cardiff, Wales
VII 1962 Perth, Australia
VIII 1966 Kingston, Jamaica
IX 1970 Edinburgh, Scotland
X 1974 Christchurch, New Zealand
XI 1978 Edmonton, Canada
XII 1982 Brisbane, Australia
XIII 1986 Edinburgh, Scotland
XIV 1990 Auckland, New Zealand
XV 1994 Victoria, Canada
XVI 1998 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
XVII 2002 Manchester, England
XVIII 2006 Melbourne, Australia
XIX 2010 Delhi, India 3 – 14 Oct
XX 2014 Glasgow, Scotland 23 Jul– 3 Aug
XXI 2018 TBD
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Postby d pickup » Sat May 15, 2010 4:04 pm

Commonwealth Games athletes wary of New Delhi's dirty air

'state government is considering drastic pollution-reduction measures, including a congestion tax, traffic restrictions, shop closures and a moratorium on all construction in the weeks leading up to the October event.'

see
www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/com ... 5866985240
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Postby d pickup » Mon May 31, 2010 9:59 am

'Queen to miss Delhi ... The sheer volume of engagements'

First it was Sotherton, then Ennis, and now the Queen. Who next?

see
http://insidethegames.biz/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=94
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Postby d pickup » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:33 pm

'Concerns India will lose face over Commonwealth Games'

Concerns were voiced beforehand re for instance the '04 Athens OLY, but they pulled it all together. And Delhi? 'better to leave the city during that time [Games fortnight]'.

see
www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010 ... 76091.html
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Postby d pickup » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:55 am

Danvers to miss Europeans in pursuit of Commonwealths

[Someone who actually wants to go to Delhi!]

Tasha Danvers, '77, OLY '08 podium athlete, but subsequently beset with injury, sees Barcelona coming too early for her comeback so Delhi it is ... and LDN '12, she hopes.

400H PB 53.84, 2nd GBR all-time list behind Gunnell (52.74) & ahead of:
3 54.63 Gowry Retchakan, '60 3 Aug 92
4 54.91 Perri Shakes-Drayton '88 12 Jun 10
5 55.17 Eilidh Child '87 6 Jun 10

see
www.morethanthegames.co.uk/athletics/24 ... monwealths

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Delhi venues on target, Aussie team says

see
www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/24/ ... ction=more
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Postby d pickup » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:23 am

Shelly-Ann Fraser to miss Commonwealth Games

OLY/World 100 champ: 'October was too late in the year'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/8788852.stm
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Postby Javelin Sam » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:14 pm

it is going to be really odd having it in october.. usually off the back of televised athletics clubs will see a slight influx of children who are keen to have a go at what they have just seen... this will not be possibly this time around becuse the emphasis on training post CWG will be on winter training and new prospects may not take to well to this introduction of life in athletics..
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Postby d pickup » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:08 pm

'India trying hard to bring renowned athletes to CWG'

AUS swimmer Ian Thorpe will not be atttending.

Final entry list: issued 13sep.

see
http://sify.com/news/india-trying-hard- ... hiege.html
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Postby d pickup » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:50 am

'Commonwealth Games lays bare infrastructure woes'

see
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 190875.cms
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Postby MarkC » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:19 pm

Javelin Sam wrote:it is going to be really odd having it in october.. usually off the back of televised athletics clubs will see a slight influx of children who are keen to have a go at what they have just seen... this will not be possibly this time around becuse the emphasis on training post CWG will be on winter training and new prospects may not take to well to this introduction of life in athletics..


very good point
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Postby Kermit » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:58 pm

It will be incredibly hard for an athlete to end a season on a peak. Normally the races after the major event of the season they have a couple of weeks to make a quick buck. They may have to taper down in the Asian season!
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Postby d pickup » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:36 pm

'JN Stadium opens, minister admits delay'

'Jawaharlal Nehru stadium was inaugurated ... supposed to be completed in January 2010 ... new tunnel which connects the warm-up area to the main stadium turf. The tunnel, which runs underground and opens up in the green stretch within the running track, is an engineering marvel.'

see
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 225243.cms
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Postby d pickup » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:59 am

'DELHI 2010: Commonwealth Games chief fears for athletes' safety'

Site preparation delays and curruption and now, again, safety.

Media spin or not, good vibes are not coming from October Delhi.

see
www.morethanthegames.co.uk/delhi-2010/0 ... tes-safety
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Postby d pickup » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:55 am

'Queen in "cold fury" over Commonwealth Games scandal'

re corruption allegations

see
www.insidethegames.biz/commonwealth-gam ... es-scandal
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Postby d pickup » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:44 am

'Meadows confirms she won't run at Commonwealth Games'

'prioritise next year's World Championships in Daegu ... I love running indoors and I want to do that next season as it's the perfect preparation for the World Championship'

There was much talk on the AW forum earlier in the year of 3-5 athletes potentially beating Kelly Holmes 800 GBR record. It hasn't worked out quite like that but many have done quite well and with Meadows none-Delhi-ing there is a chance for another from the 800 clutch to enjoy Delhi.

see
www.morethanthegames.co.uk/athletics/14 ... alth-games
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Postby SteveK26 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:10 am

For one reason or another the 800 girls didn't move forward this year,as a whole.
Meadows remains at the top of the pile, and will likely do so again next year.
Pity she misses Delhi; one less for Caster to worry about.
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Postby Kermit » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:33 pm

D it was me who touted the possibilities of Kelly's record being broken and yes, I was wrong. However injuries seem to have damaged the nation's world rankings this year, the latest on the sick list is Maz Okoro.

Let's see who's selected tomorrow and who actually goes!
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Postby d pickup » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:08 pm

Kermit

Thanks for owning up! Joking. I think a number of people were optimistic re our 800 ladies; sadly injury took its toll. Anyway at the weekend Dob & Emma Jackson did PBs, let's hope there is a good activity in Delhi, and so a look at the end of the season will show that '10 hasn't been a bad one, compared with say '09 and recent seasons, and that your though of there being some sort of break through wasn't so totally off the mark.
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Postby paulouk83 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:13 pm

no meadows and simpson so i hope emma jackson gets her shot!
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Postby paul » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:57 pm

I am a huge fan of all of the big three in GB w800m. But they have been the big three for quite a while now, and I think that a CG team of
Jackson, Leonard, Smith
would (a) do us proud; and (b) be good for the future.

It won't be easy, though! The commonwealth has a significant proportion of the world's best 800m runners, so this will be a very very tough event.
I wonder if Liz McColgan's young protege Sarah Kelly will go for Scotland.
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Postby pedro1970 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:33 pm

Paul

It would be great to see Sarah Kelly go for Scotland? I'm not sure though if Scottish Athletics will have put her name forward for selection to CGS. The Qualifying time is 2:01.80 Sarah has a best of 2:02.89 and the selection criteria states that an athlete needs to do a qual time twice (including marks from 2009).

Interesting that Scotland had a 4x100 team at CP Hopefully that time although not spectacular might have convinced the selectors to send a squad to Delhi.

The team of Nick Smith, Stuart Benson, Ryan Oswald and Calum Innes are at Best 10.4 100m runners so it just shows how well drilled their change overs are.

Pedro

Ps sorry this reply is on the thread for CG England Selections :lol:
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Postby Sportsman29 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:41 pm

I would have thought that Celia Taylor may be picked over someone like Leonard in the 800m, Leonard may be a lot younger but Celia has run quicker than her this season.

Emma Jackson, Celia Taylor and Stacey Smith perhaps.
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Postby paul » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:02 pm

Apparently the English Athletics QT is an even tougher 2:01.00 (and the window for running it closed long ago), so it looks like I can't have any part of my wish!
Can anyone confirm this?...

If so, this seems a little dumb now. If Maz is unfit then apparently we (Eng) are not going to send anyone...
I'm not completely sure of the merits of arguing for Celia over Leonard -- Celia is a very fine athlete, but will be a veteran in 2012 (and AFAIK she hasn't done the QT either) -- but I do think that we have the depth to be able to send 3 worthwhile athletes.
It is silly not to send any.

Same argument applies, in my view, for Kelly and Scottish qualification, Pedro. She is worth a shot.
But as you say, nominally they would have to relax their rule to allow it.
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Postby jambob » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:14 pm

Paul
The EA time for the womens 800 is 2.01.00. The closing date for achieving this is midnight 17th August. The tean to be picked on the 18th August.
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Postby Sportsman29 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:49 pm

http://www.sportinglife.com/others/news ... tlead.html

Doesn't look like Dobriskey is a certain yet either....
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Postby paps83 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:55 pm

paul wrote:I'm not completely sure of the merits of arguing for Celia over Leonard -- Celia is a very fine athlete, but will be a veteran in 2012 (and AFAIK she hasn't done the QT either) --



Personally I'm not sure it's a great idea to start selecting people on future potential rather than current performance. It sends a very negative message to anyone who's not a junior/u23 that there will be no reward for carrying on regardless of what you do. There will always be someone younger that might do better, so if that becomes the policy, when do athletes that have already come of age ever get a chance. And how far down does that go - do we stop sending athletes to european juniors if they are going to be too old for the next world juniors?

Personally I think the positive effect of showing that persistance can lead to the chance to run in a national vest at a major champs would be of far more benefit to the event as a whole than giving one individual, who may or may not be running well in 2 years time, a bit more experience. The u20s and u23s give development opportunities to young athletes. Senior championships are about the athletes that are already performing.

That said, unless the qt gets beaten this is all a bit of a moot point.
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Postby paulouk83 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:38 pm

any idea when the team is coming out?
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