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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby bevone » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:39 pm

Er - anyone remember Jason Livingston - I'm baby Ben (Johnson) but clean? You are judged by your actions and not your words. Why cannot people accept that. When you fail a drug test and it is over turned on a 'technicality' still does not explain how the stuff got there in the first place. Nobody is suggesting the likes of Bolt are taking drugs as their performances are so outrageous but if he was caught doping - many would pipe up telling they ha told us so.

I would not put it past anyone - as for Africans - they have been caught as well so i am not sure we should look to Africa for a moral compass.

Shouting too loud about it only brings suspicion on yourself if an athlete - and makes you a cynic if not!!!! Doping is far more over exaggerated than is reality. It is like the thought that we live in a crime fueled and dangerous society when we crime has been falling for years and at its lowest level sine the 50/60's apparently - and there are 15million more of us now.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby jambob » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:10 pm

Just picked up from twitter "Hours before his 1500m heat, it's been announced that Amine Laalou of Morocco has tested positive for furosemide, a banned masking agent." which is the same substance that Selsouli tested positive for.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby jjimbojames » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:07 pm

With Tikhon too, they seem to be still pushing through the testing
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Flumpy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:58 pm

When is the w1500m? There' s still time :)
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby jjimbojames » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:59 pm

Flumpy wrote:When is the w1500m? There' s still time :)

Especially with this new 'day of the event reveal' we seem to have today... :D
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby dvorakfan » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:38 am

Interesting story about Laalou - Andreas Vojta (AUT) shared a room in a hotel during a meeting in Stockholm in winter and found some interesting equipment (didn't have to search for it).

http://kurier.at/sport/sportmix/4506752 ... erband.php

http://www.laola1.at/de/olympia/leichta ... 955--.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyOg6J784_0

He forwarded the informataion to WADA and IAAF but they didn't do anything!?
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby ldnbloke » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:57 pm

Seems like they did ie targeted testing, I would hope.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby dvorakfan » Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:33 pm

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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby devonian » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:01 pm



Quite refreshing that he's got the decency to admit his guilt...doesn't stop him being a wrong 'un though
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby ldnbloke » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:57 pm

So sad. And he's Carolina Kostner's boyfriend and they're obviously the sports power couple in SudTirol, no wonder the whole nation has a downpour of emotion .
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby trevorp » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:52 pm

Hirt of France (went out in the 5k heats):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/au ... sfeed=true
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Flumpy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:09 pm

A French man of North African extraction???

I Don't Believe It :shock:
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby moshimoshi » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:33 pm

Interesting thing about Alex Schwarzer, he could have avoided the testers when they called, only he would have had to cope with the guilt a bit longer, and would also have had to tell his mum (not to open the door!), and I guess he couldn't do it. But if you dope with a bit of a team around you, the odd missed test presumably wouldn't be a problem.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olym ... 22848.html
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Flumpy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:41 am

I do love it when a cheat confesses, apologises and then promptly retires. People should be embarrassed when caught but so many are completely shameless, deny it and then return better than ever.

I wish more would follow the Kelli White/Alex Schwazer example.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby trickstat » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:08 am

I see that Alex Schwazer bought his EPO in Turkey. :roll:
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby ldnbloke » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:08 am

I guess he could've had a missed test, go to London , get a medal and then retire. I assume he had less than two missed tests prior to that day.
The young Kenyan Kisorio's admission isn't greeted with gratitude though, but I'm sure the German media who are trying to break that story will have a flield day.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Flumpy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:24 am

trickstat wrote:I see that Alex Schwazer bought his EPO in Turkey. :roll:


How dare you sully the name of our great Greek heroes!!! :roll:
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby trevorp » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:59 pm

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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby jambob » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:27 am

Just been on BBC news that Nadzeya Ostapchuk from Belarus, who won gold medal in women's shot putt, has been disqualified for a doping offence.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Geoff » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:27 am

Ostpchuk has failed a drugs test and will be stripped of her gold medal. valerie Adams is now the Olympic champion. Apparently an anabolic agent was found in her sample :) Shame it wasn't discovered before the Games!
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Flumpy » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:34 am

What fabulous news t wake up to on a Monday morning :mrgreen:
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby larkim » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:39 am

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few more post-games results coming out over the next few days. Disappointing, but probably inevitable.

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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby SteveK26 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:57 am

Now we know why Ostapchuk looks more like a man than most men.

But poor Val Adams has still been robbed of her 'golden moment' by the betch from Bilarus. (sorry about the spoonerism).
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby iain » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:03 pm

Not exactly surprising but still a shame as this was a good rivalry. Eight east European field eventers from Athens are to be unveiled after the close of the games (ie now).
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby iain » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:04 pm

Shame this wasn't yesterday as they could have done the medals ceremony with that of he marathon
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby merito » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:05 pm

Gutted! I'm getting my hair cut tomorrow and was going to request the Belarus special. I guess it's off the menu now!
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:54 pm

larkim wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few more post-games results coming out over the next few days. Disappointing, but probably inevitable.

Matt

It proves the old saying.
The second worst thing in sport is catching someone cheating...
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby Flumpy » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:22 pm

larkim wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few more post-games results coming out over the next few days. Disappointing, but probably inevitable.


It's not disappointing at all, it's fabulous.

The more post games +ives we get the better. I thoroughly looking forward to them.

No positive tests doesn't mean no drug cheats it just means they haven't been caught. There are quite a few medallists from these games that we all know are cheats. Even if it's in 8 years time I can't wait for them to be rumbled.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby merito » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:31 pm

Flumpy, I know what you mean. I fear a few more naughty boys and girls will be caught before we can clear the decks, at least until the next time.
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Re: One down.......Positive tests!

Postby iain » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:39 pm

I noticed Makhloufi carrying the Algerian flag :D
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