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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:38 pm

Geoff wrote:His race is already on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q40j62FhwY


He completed the double by winning the 200 m. Time was only 21.1 but that was into a 4 metre plus headwind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiNBJn-6gyA

The big news came in the post-race interview. "I just got my British passport Friday".
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:48 am

A really good run in the conditions and after running over-lapping rounds of the 100 and 200 which must have taken quite a bit out of him.

He said he will be running the UK trials and hopefully London for Britain but also running for Turks & Caicos at the World Juniors but is he allowed to do this?
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:12 am

He also ran great legs of the 4x100 and 4x400.

Note that GB had first and third in the senior boys 200!!! Mitchell Blake was third with 21.72.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Occasional Hope » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:51 pm

He said he will be running the UK trials and hopefully London for Britain but also running for Turks & Caicos at the World Juniors but is he allowed to do this?


I think he'd be in the same position as Shara Proctor. Turks and Caicos is a British Overseas Territory - see wikipedia - not an indeopendent country but obviously has independent represenatation with the IAAF.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:40 pm

Occasional Hope wrote:
He said he will be running the UK trials and hopefully London for Britain but also running for Turks & Caicos at the World Juniors but is he allowed to do this?


I think he'd be in the same position as Shara Proctor. Turks and Caicos is a British Overseas Territory - see wikipedia - not an indeopendent country but obviously has independent represenatation with the IAAF.


Thanks OccHope. Shara Proctor competed in the last World Champs for Britain so is Williams wrong? Do IAAF/IOC rules permit a sort of higher claim status, possibly for junior athletes?
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby BigGut » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:48 pm

Geoff its no different to the situation with england football players. For olympic purposes only he is part of the uk. For other iaaf events he is from a nation independant of the uk.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:54 pm

IAAF COMPETITION RULES 2012-2013

(c) if the Territory of the Member does not have a National
Olympic Committee and an athlete qualifies to compete at the
Olympic Games for the Territory’s parent Country. In such a
case, the athlete’s representation of the Territory’s parent
Country at the Olympic Games shall not affect his eligibility to
continue to compete for the relevant Member Territory in other
International Competitions under Rules 1.1(a), (b), (c), (f) or
(g);
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:00 pm

Thanks Guto that clarifies eligibility.

Throwing a spanner in the works!!! What about qualifying for podium/development funding?
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:32 pm

Storming anchor leg by Delano Williams(from 6th to 3rd) Class-1 4x100m

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDngi8DcvA4

He's certainly an outstanding prospect and could run 20.2/20.3 (maybe quicker) this year if he stays healthy.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby readtherules » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:55 pm

Geoff wrote:Thanks Guto that clarifies eligibility.

Throwing a spanner in the works!!! What about qualifying for podium/development funding?



As funding is Olympic driven then should get it even though may not compete for GB at worlds.
However if by doing so he deviates from what is required from him under a funding plan then this may cause him to be removed.Worms and spanners !
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:40 pm

readtherules wrote:
Geoff wrote:Thanks Guto that clarifies eligibility.

Throwing a spanner in the works!!! What about qualifying for podium/development funding?



As funding is Olympic driven then should get it even though may not compete for GB at worlds.
However if by doing so he deviates from what is required from him under a funding plan then this may cause him to be removed.Worms and spanners !


I can see him doing the world juniors for Turks & Caicos and then, hopefully, the Olympics for GB. But then what? Receive funding for 4 years while representing T&C in the worlds and other events? I wonder why Shara Proctor changed allegiance and did the world champs for Britain rather than Anguilla?

No, I think he will need to switch to GB after the Olympics if he wants to receive funding. I assume there are conditions regarding eligibility for world champs or for GB for the duration of the funding.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:10 pm

Florida Relays
Tiffany Porter kicks off the season with 12.96 for the 100 hurdles into a 0.5 headwind. Olympic A standard.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby usedtoit33 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:03 pm

Guto Nyth Bran wrote:Florida Relays
Tiffany Porter kicks off the season with 12.96 for the 100 hurdles into a 0.5 headwind. Olympic A standard.

Not bad. Last year she opened with a 12.76 (+4.9) at a similar date, then had the 12.66w and ran 13.03 in Daegu on 12 May, so its a good opener.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:12 pm

Guto Nyth Bran wrote:Florida Relays
Tiffany Porter kicks off the season with 12.96 for the 100 hurdles into a 0.5 headwind. Olympic A standard.


I think that's the first 'A' qualifier in the UKA current qualifying period (since April 1st).
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby 3a » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:24 pm

Not results per se, but some interesting tidbits IMHO.

Just saw a team of Ezzine Okparebo-Hyleas Fountain-Brianna Glenn-Tianna Madison entered for the womens 4x1 at FLorida relays.

Further research shows that they are all in the same training group, a group that includes Shara Proctor.

Thus, one man is coaching Proctor, Fountain, Glenn and Madison (not sure if she has gone back to Long jump aswell).

I just need to know who is the coach and has Fountain/Proctor or Madison always been with him/her. I know it;s very recent for Glenn. There has clearly been some excellent winter training with Madison and Proctor smashing their PBs

Be interesting to see what Ezine, Glenn and FOuntain pull out of the bag come June/July!
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby BernardII » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:49 pm

Massive breakthrough for Sarah Waldron at Stanford, as she reduces her PB from 33:51 to 32:36.07!

Lennie Waite was just outside the Olympic B standard when winning the steeplechase in 9:48.35 (PB).
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby sidelined » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:53 pm

3a, Shara Proctor's coach is listed on Po10 as Rana Reider.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby BernardII » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:58 pm

sidelined wrote:3a, Shara Proctor's coach is listed on Po10 as Rana Reider.


And USATF lists Rana Reider as Hyleas Fountain's coach (he also coaches Christian Taylor and Dwight Phillips.) I don't think she's always been coached by him though.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby 3a » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:52 pm

^^Cheers guys. Much appreciated
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby 3a » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:20 pm

Florida Relays

Section 1
1 PURE ATHLETICS 'A' 43.33
1) Oyepitan, Abi SR 2) Solomon, Shalonda SR
3) Henry-Robinson, Samantha SR 4) Ferguson-McKenzie, Debbie SR
2 BOOGIEFAST TRACK CLUB 'A' 43.75
1) Okparaebo, Ezinne SR 2) Glenn, Brianna SR
3) Fountain, Hyleas SR 4) Madison, Tianna SR
3 STAR ATHLETICS 'B' 43.88
1) Porter, Tiffany SR 2) Pierre, Barbara
3) Facey, Simone 4) Castlin, Kristi SR


Nice to see two British gals get the baton around ;)

Abi part of a great team there.


According to his twitter, Tyrone Edgar opens today.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:48 pm

Carifta Games.
Zharnel Hughes of Anguilla is fastest qualifier for 100 m final beating the times of the top Jamaican sprinters.
He clocked 10.44 although he had 3 m/s wind behind him. He turns 17 in July.
And of course since he's from Anguilla he's eligible for GB.

Edit - 4th in final 10.41 with a massive 5.6 wind behind him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXwEtJTp ... ure=relmfu
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby mump boy » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:03 am

readtherules wrote:
Geoff wrote:Thanks Guto that clarifies eligibility.

Throwing a spanner in the works!!! What about qualifying for podium/development funding?



As funding is Olympic driven then should get it even though may not compete for GB at worlds.
However if by doing so he deviates from what is required from him under a funding plan then this may cause him to be removed.Worms and spanners !


What is the obsession with funding ? i've not heard him even mention funding, only that he wants to run at the olympics.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:15 am

mump boy wrote:
readtherules wrote:
Geoff wrote:Thanks Guto that clarifies eligibility.

Throwing a spanner in the works!!! What about qualifying for podium/development funding?



As funding is Olympic driven then should get it even though may not compete for GB at worlds.
However if by doing so he deviates from what is required from him under a funding plan then this may cause him to be removed.Worms and spanners !


What is the obsession with funding ? i've not heard him even mention funding, only that he wants to run at the olympics.


It's not an obsession and in no way do I think any British qualified athlete meeting the agreed standards should be deprived of funding. In this particular case it is interesting to know whether he is entitled post London to funding, if he wants it, if he competes for T&C internationally in other events except the Olympics. It would also be interesting to clarify whether British records can be set if he doesn't fully switch to Britain. Remember he can compete for Britain in the Olympics but compete for T&C in other events or at least that's how it looks.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Geoff » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:43 am

Unofficial - Richard Kilty 10.23/20.50 ('A' standard) MLF 10.33. Strachan 46.22
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby sidelined » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:37 am

Interesting that everyone seems to be assuming that Delano Williams will qualify for the Olympics and that none of the other up and coming guys who can run 20.50 are capable of beating him.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:00 am

ArizonaState University
(same meeting as Kilty etc.)
Margaret Adeoye PB 53.43 400
Laura Turner 11.47 100 23.71 200
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:04 am

Stamford University
Tom Farrell 3:41.07 PB 1500

North Texas
Tyrone Edgar 10.29

Eugene
James Alaka 10.36 100 20.90 200
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:08 pm

sidelined wrote:Interesting that everyone seems to be assuming that Delano Williams will qualify for the Olympics and that none of the other up and coming guys who can run 20.50 are capable of beating him.

Good point. We shouldn't underestimate what we already had.
Although I should point that last week Ato Boldon said that Williams and the brilliant young Jamaican Shauna Helps were the most promising sprinters in the entire Caribbean at the moment. But he's still only 18...
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby 3a » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:16 pm

3a wrote:Florida Relays

Section 1
1 PURE ATHLETICS 'A' 43.33
1) Oyepitan, Abi SR 2) Solomon, Shalonda SR
3) Henry-Robinson, Samantha SR 4) Ferguson-McKenzie, Debbie SR
2 BOOGIEFAST TRACK CLUB 'A' 43.75
1) Okparaebo, Ezinne SR 2) Glenn, Brianna SR
3) Fountain, Hyleas SR 4) Madison, Tianna SR
3 STAR ATHLETICS 'B' 43.88
1) Porter, Tiffany SR 2) Pierre, Barbara
3) Facey, Simone 4) Castlin, Kristi SR


Nice to see two British gals get the baton around ;)

Abi part of a great team there.


According to his twitter, Tyrone Edgar opens today.


http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248544 ... -4x100-H01

^^Here's a video of the race. Porter actually ran anchor, her team was in lane two.

Points to note for upcoming season, ABi ran a very good first leg...she won her leg and had excellent acceleration into the second leg gal, (Shalonda Solomon US 200m champ).

Porter on the other hand clearly doesn't have the leg speed for a relay unfortunately, she was overhauled by Madison and had 10 metres taken out of her by another athlete.

Hyleas FOuntain doesn;t look to have the speed in her legs either, which is good news for Jess.
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Re: Early outdoor 2012 results

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:31 pm

Delano Williams 20.83 in winning the Carifta Games in Bermuda.
4th place in 21.26 another GB eligible runner, sixteen year old Zharnel Hughes of Anguilla.
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