Its a great list, although for me, theres only option - and thats our Paula.
Javelin Sam wrote:I have voted for Denise Lewis, lots of you might think i would have voted for either Tessa (Olympic gold) or Fatima (WR) but for me it has got to be denise..
the reason is that she is/was an outstanding all round athlete that has spurred a new line of british female multi eventers to push harder and succeed.
Sure kelly homes and paula did good things..just by running and tessa and fatima in throwing but denise did it in running, jumping and throwing.
I have much respect for that..
A helluva lot more than Denise for starters.Javelin Sam wrote:What has paula actually done over the past 10 years
And where exactly did you hear that from?! Wherever you got it, it's plain incorrect. She bruised a joint in her foot - anyone who knows anything about such injuries knows that those type of injuries can take a good while to heal. Perdita Felicien STILL hasn't fully recovered from the bruised heel bone she suffered in the 2004 OG final.Javelin Sam wrote:what was paula's excuse for not runnig the marathon?? she had had an injury and was not in "winning form" so she wouldn't run....even though she could have run...YAWN
Jon wrote:And where exactly did you hear that from?! Wherever you got it, it's plain incorrect. She bruised a joint in her foot - anyone who knows anything about such injuries knows that those type of injuries can take a good while to heal. Perdita Felicien STILL hasn't fully recovered from the bruised heel bone she suffered in the 2004 OG final.Javelin Sam wrote:what was paula's excuse for not runnig the marathon?? she had had an injury and was not in "winning form" so she wouldn't run....even though she could have run...YAWN
And how does withdrawing from London detract WHATSOEVER from what she has ALREADY achieved? I.e. 12 world records and six global titles on the road and XC. Denise won an Olympic gold when the big favourite, Eunice Barber, had to withdraw. Whoopie.
It's pretty much half and half. Bubka and Isinbayeva clearly vaulted well within themselves each time they attempted a WR, but you cannot accuse Paula of doing the same. Every time she steps on the track/road/XC, she gives it 100% from the gun - mainly because going out hard is her best chance of winning, but also because she likes to test herself and push the boundaries.Javelin Sam wrote:12 WR's.. how many of those were breaking her own WR in one event?
You couldn't be further away from the truth. Historically, Britain have always been strong in the heptathlon, ever since the days of Mary Peters and Mary Rand. Before Denise came along there was the likes of Judy Simpson performing very well on the world stage. Sotherton was already a heptathlete before Denise hit the big time, so perhaps the only leading British youngster that Denise has inspired is Jessica Ennis.Javelin Sam wrote:Denise inspired a whole crop of young heptathletes to come through in her wake..
Paula has not.. there have always been good distance runners in the UK for women.. it's just that paula has been a little bit better than the rest.
For whatever it's worth, my background is sprints and track and field. I am far from a distance runner, but even I can acknowledge the outstanding impact Paula has had on the sport. Denise just can't claim the same (and believe me, I'm one of the biggest Denise Lewis fans you're likely to meet).Javelin Sam wrote:oh boy am i being controversial on a board of distance runners
Granted, there are more opportunities for distance runners to compete than multi-eventers. But even taking that into consideration, Paula's achievements far outweigh Denise's.Javelin Sam wrote:and another point.. there is more opportunity for Paula to achieve these global titles...
all the different track, cross and road events she can enter..denise would have to train all year to compete in 7 events over 2 days at 110% and then probably have no other chance of competing at that level again that year.
A leading heptathlete failing to break 24 seconds for 200m is anything but 'special'.DMulvee wrote:the fact that she didn't have a weak event means that she was very special.
Ndereba - former WR holder and 2nd all-time; Tulu - one the all-time greats; Dita - 2:21 runner, etc?! In terms of depth, it was the best championship marathon of all-time. Sure, a couple names were missing, but you can hardly call it a depleted field (like the Sydney heptathlon final).DMulvee wrote:Sure Radcliffe was by far the best in Helsinki, but she wasn't racing the best.
Jon wrote:Perhaps an all-time list of British medallists at international champs can help with a discussion on this subject:
Note who the top female is...
Definitely. Gunnell and Radcliffe are clearly the two most successful female athletes Britain has produced and it is difficult to separate the two. In my books, Paula gets the nod (pun intended)Oleg wrote:How about Gunnell? should be considered to be close to Radcliffe surely?
Jon wrote:A helluva lot more than Denise for starters.Javelin Sam wrote:What has paula actually done over the past 10 years
marknhj wrote:If she hadn't competed in the era of drugged up Eastern Europeans and Americans, you could make an arguement for Kathy Cook to at least be in the poll...
I dread to think what you're like when you're schmoozing with elite athletes. Perhaps AW should send you on a course in tact and diplomacy?
It's called a discussion. It didn't degenerate to name-calling or a slanging match like so many of the other threads that are now dead. I don't see what was wrong with it.ace wrote:So Jon if you have an opinion just give it and dont get so overheated, just chill
ace wrote:By the way Daisy there IS no big deal "it's called a discussion" remember!
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