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Women's 4x100

Postby Geoff » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:49 pm

It might surprise many spectators that they don't have a GB team to cheer on tonight. Will the big two get the baton round safely?
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jjimbojames » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:13 pm

The US team spokesperson has confirmed that all women in the pool will get a run out in London; clearly, they haven't learnt from their mistakes

That could well upset their chances of qualifying, along with the whole mess that is the Tarmoh affair!
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Packin_Snacks » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:25 pm

DEM "SECOND STRING" AMERICANS! Just five hundreths of a second away from East Germany's (BLEH!) Olympic record from 1980!

Great change overs, fast running... scary stuff for the final with their A team!
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby alfie7 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:36 pm

Nearly lost Jamaica there...onlyjust got that changeover in...

Want to be a lot cleaner than that if they want to give USA a race in the final.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jjimbojames » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:41 pm

They must know who's likely to be rested months in advance (straight after their Trials, really) so it always amazes me to see teams rest legs 2 and/or 3 - you are asking for trouble

USA were lucky that 2 and 3 were available to practice together all week, but it's slightly odd. Line up for the heats suggest Tarmoh is getting the raw end of the stick, despite finishing joint 3rd at the Trials. When I saw Knight at CP, she didn't look in great condition, so it's understandable why Tarmoh is not too impressed with the politics!

A least we know other countries suffer as much as we do!
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Flumpy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:31 pm

Packin_Snacks wrote:DEM "SECOND STRING" AMERICANS! Just five hundreths of a second away from East Germany's (BLEH!) Olympic record from 1980!


What do you mean 'BLEH'. I trust the East German team of 1980 about as much as I do the US team of 2012 (Or '84, '88, '96, '00, '04 or '08 - I'll give '92 the benefit of the doubt) .
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jjimbojames » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:44 pm

USA world record - sub 41 against JAM national record

SAFP got a poor start which put them out of it from the start
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby alfie7 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:45 pm

Now that's the way to pass a baton ...40.82 :shock:
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby athlete101 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:49 pm

WOW 40.82 Incredible!
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Tracker » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:51 pm

Brendan foster says...... that time will wipe the East Germans off of the map forever.....Or until Carmelita Jeter's test results are in.... :D

BRILLIANT team though. Truly in awe right now.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Ursus » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:52 pm

Had no idea the WR was that old. Another of the mid 80s German marks off the books...still a few more to go.

Very impressive run from the Yanks. Safe changes & there really is no substitute for high end speed.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby iain » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:03 pm

Tracker wrote:Brendan foster says...... that time will wipe the East Germans off of the map forever.....Or until Carmelita Jeter's test results are in.... :D

BRILLIANT team though. Truly in awe right now.

I loved the glee in his voice as he said that! :)
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby mump boy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:08 pm

Eilidh Child ‏@EilidhChild
Thanks for the messages tonight guys!! Won't be in that final team 2moro but will be there supporting the rest of the girls!! #Backtheteam


I dread to think :(
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jjimbojames » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:10 pm

mump boy wrote:Eilidh Child ‏@EilidhChild
Thanks for the messages tonight guys!! Won't be in that final team 2moro but will be there supporting the rest of the girls!! #Backtheteam


I dread to think :(

Wrong thread, but it'll be a swap with PSD
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby mump boy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:17 am

i know i thought i's deleted :-S
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VIDEO of Women's 4x100 replay. USA's New World Record

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Women's 4x100m Relay Olympics London 2012. USA New World Record VIDEO
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USA quartet smash world record

August 10, 2012

The USA women's team broke a 27-year-old world record as they won Olympic gold in the 4x100m relay on Friday night.

The American quartet of Tianna Madison, Allyson Felix, Bianca Knight and Carmelita Jeter clocked 40.82 seconds to smash the previous best, set by East Germany in 1985, by nearly half a second.

They also shattered the best-ever Olympic time which had stood for 32 years.
Jamaica's Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce - the individual 100m champion - Sherone Simpson, Veronica Campbell-Brown Kerron Stewart took the silver in a national record of 41.41 while Ukraine took the bronze.



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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jjimbojames » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:51 pm

We've got a 4x100m team entered in Lausanne next week - let's hope they can get the baton round in a good time to start pushing up the rankings. Unsure who the team is, but Hayley Jones is one of them...
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Geoff » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:58 pm

jjimbojames wrote:We've got a 4x100m team entered in Lausanne next week - let's hope they can get the baton round in a good time to start pushing up the rankings. Unsure who the team is, but Hayley Jones is one of them...


They need to get two good times in for next year's world champs. We all know what happens when they leave it until the last minute! As I've said not having a team in London was a major embarrassment for UKA and very much counts against CVC as head coach. Good luck to them.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby iain » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:22 am

Geoff wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:We've got a 4x100m team entered in Lausanne next week - let's hope they can get the baton round in a good time to start pushing up the rankings. Unsure who the team is, but Hayley Jones is one of them...


They need to get two good times in for next year's world champs. We all know what happens when they leave it until the last minute! As I've said not having a team in London was a major embarrassment for UKA and very much counts against CVC as head coach. Good luck to them.

All we need is one time under 44.00
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Geoff » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:39 am

iain wrote:
Geoff wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:We've got a 4x100m team entered in Lausanne next week - let's hope they can get the baton round in a good time to start pushing up the rankings. Unsure who the team is, but Hayley Jones is one of them...


They need to get two good times in for next year's world champs. We all know what happens when they leave it until the last minute! As I've said not having a team in London was a major embarrassment for UKA and very much counts against CVC as head coach. Good luck to them.

All we need is one time under 44.00


Iain, yes my mistake still in Olympic mode. Surely, they will manage that won't they? Actually, I think we have the ability to go sub 43 next year but our girls have to be healthy and have regular opportunities to come together as a team.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby SteveK26 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:55 pm

I know that Desiree Henry is back healthy, but what is the latest on Jodie Williams?
Will she have any sort of season this year? And is there any news on Asha P and Jeanette K ?
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:21 pm

SteveK26 wrote:I know that Desiree Henry is back healthy, but what is the latest on Jodie Williams?
Will she have any sort of season this year? And is there any news on Asha P and Jeanette K ?

Jodie is not back til next year
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Geoff » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:35 am

Geoff wrote:
iain wrote:
Geoff wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:We've got a 4x100m team entered in Lausanne next week - let's hope they can get the baton round in a good time to start pushing up the rankings. Unsure who the team is, but Hayley Jones is one of them...


They need to get two good times in for next year's world champs. We all know what happens when they leave it until the last minute! As I've said not having a team in London was a major embarrassment for UKA and very much counts against CVC as head coach. Good luck to them.

All we need is one time under 44.00


Iain, yes my mistake still in Olympic mode. Surely, they will manage that won't they? Actually, I think we have the ability to go sub 43 next year but our girls have to be healthy and have regular opportunities to come together as a team.


I know it wasn't a full strength team but 44.37! I hope our girls are healthy next year and get more opportunities to qualify as they should be beating the likes of Switzerland, Germany and Holland.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby SteveK26 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:31 am

Next year.
Surely ANY combination of Williams, Kwakye, Oyipetan , Henry and Phillip would, (assuming they got the baton round) run close to 43.00 or below?
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby MysteryBrick » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:56 am

Not forgetting Adeoye, who I think as an excellent club runner who's taken the next step up a bit later in her career (a la Conrad Williams) would be the kind of person who'd want to be involved in a relay too.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby SteveK26 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:09 pm

MysteryBrick wrote:Not forgetting Adeoye, who I think as an excellent club runner who's taken the next step up a bit later in her career (a la Conrad Williams) would be the kind of person who'd want to be involved in a relay too.



...and maybe one or two others. The point is, surely, we have the pool of talent for a decent relay squad. Why ignore them? Lets get them together, get them qualified, and see what they can do. Lets take the new breed forward and forget the traumas of the past. Same goes for the men.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Tracker » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:28 pm

Our women are bronze medal contenders if they learn how to exchange the baton, they obviously need the support to do that but the potential is there. Ukraine are world, European and Olympic medallists and I think a team of Kwakye-Williams-Oyepitan-Philip in any order is right with them if not better. Also with Adeoye, Onuora, Jones, Nelson (I think that is a 43 mid squad alone) all on the up or at an age where improvement is to be expected we have a large talent pool to pick from.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby jeremy1 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:05 pm

"right with them if not better" :( :(

The Ukrainians ran 42.04 for their Bronze in London and contain better sprinters than exist in the womens 100 m in this country.Povh, Ryemyen etc

The British record is 42.43 set in Moscow in....1980, 32 years old, and those sprinters were far better than the present lot .
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby Tracker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:03 pm

jeremy1 wrote:"right with them if not better" :( :(

The Ukrainians ran 42.04 for their Bronze in London and contain better sprinters than exist in the womens 100 m in this country.Povh, Ryemyen etc

The British record is 42.43 set in Moscow in....1980, 32 years old, and those sprinters were far better than the present lot .


Povh and Ryemyen are legit 11.1 sprinters yes.....so are Williams and Kwakye so what is your point?
After that the Ukraine team have Stuy, Bryzgina, Pohrebnyak and Pyatchenko. Great Britain have Oyepitan, Philip, Onuora, Adeoye and other youngsters.

I see no evidence that they have better raw speed than us if both teams are fully fit. The only difference is our girls can't stay fit or exchange a baton.
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Re: Women's 4x100

Postby MysteryBrick » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:56 pm

jeremy1 wrote:"right with them if not better" :( :(

The Ukrainians ran 42.04 for their Bronze in London and contain better sprinters than exist in the womens 100 m in this country.Povh, Ryemyen etc

The British record is 42.43 set in Moscow in....1980, 32 years old, and those sprinters were far better than the present lot .


Ukraine:
Povh - PB and SB 11.08
Ryemyen - PB 11.21 SB 11.22
Pohrebnyak - PB 11.17 SB 11.20
Pyatachenko - PB and SB 11.30
Bryzgina - PB 22.44 SB 22.64 (200m)
Stuy - PB and SB 22.66 (200m)

GB:
Oyepitan - PB 11.17 SB 11.21
Turner - PB 11.11 SB 11.27
Onuora - PB 11.18 SB 11.31
Adeoye - PB and SB 22.94

Williams - PB 11.18 (injured)
Kwakye - PB 11.14 (injured)

The numbers are pretty similar, it's just that Ukraine have had all their athletes fit and hitting their peaks this year, while quite a few of our top ones have been crocked. In fact, on PB our top 4 girls are actually faster overall.

Similarly, the PBs of the GB record team are 11.10, 11.20, 11.20 and 11.22. We don't have anyone of the calibre of Kathy Cook just at this moment, but on times alone the current lot are better

Obviously getting the baton round (and having 4 fit willing sprinters) is still the main issue, but in purely statistical terms the evidence is there to be seen.
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