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Re: W Hep

Postby Tuckin » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:26 am

There are compelling reasons to be convinced that anything beyond 6,750 is out of reach of all those currently 2nd to 8th - the LJ in many cases (except Fountain, whose LJ is superb), and the 800m in Fountain's case (also, in recent years her javelin has not been what it once was).

I still expect Chernova to be closer than anyone else to Jess.
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Re: W Hep

Postby Tuckin » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:49 am

Another statistical viewpoint - what if any of her rivals matched their PBs in each of the last three events? (Thankfully very unlikely in most cases.)

Chernova 6,924 (Anyone who does 6.82, 54.49 and 2:06.50 in one day deserves a medal!)
Fountain 6,747 (but her javelin PB is years old and she's not been close to it since)
Schwarzkopf 6,743
Skujyte 6,714 (but her PBs are 8, 5 and 8 years old, so this is unlikely)
Yosypenko 6,690
Dobrynska 6,675
Zelinka 6,555
Schippers 6,476 (but she's improving all the time)
Savitskaya not a factor

(Jess's PB-matching scores would leave her with 6,969, btw.)

Jess, Chernova, Schwarzkopf?
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Re: W Hep

Postby alfie7 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:12 am

Skuyjte's PBs may be a few years old , but she looked to be in pretty good shape yesterday. I wouldn't rule her out from being up there for a podium spot , especially with Dobby and Chernova a bit down on what we might have expected.

Crossed fingers for this LJ...
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Re: W Hep

Postby chaz_78 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:34 am

6.44 for Chernova

5.95 for Ennis, needs more!
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Re: W Hep

Postby 3a » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:41 am

I feel a little bit sick to be honest.
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Re: W Hep

Postby 3a » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:50 am

alfie7 wrote:Skuyjte's PBs may be a few years old , but she looked to be in pretty good shape yesterday. I wouldn't rule her out from being up there for a podium spot , especially with Dobby and Chernova a bit down on what we might have expected.

Crossed fingers for this LJ...

Austra had a 6.40 foul...her second foul :?


Worrying thing about Jessica was the fact that her run up was VERY wrong. Please hit on the next go, I can't handle a third attempt do or die.
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Re: W Hep

Postby 3a » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:55 am

6'54 for Cherny,


COME ON JESSS!!!!!!!!
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Re: W Hep

Postby chaz_78 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:02 am

6.40!
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Re: W Hep

Postby Ursus » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:09 am

I am now only partially behind the sofa.
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Re: W Hep

Postby felix » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:16 am

What are these BBC commentators ON?

"Chernova has only clawed back 13 points on Ennis in the LJ"...what?

Chernova - 6.54 = 1020 points
Ennis - 6.40 = 975 points


erm...45 points, I think.
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Re: W Hep

Postby SteveK26 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:32 am

"Some people are on the pitch, they thnk its all over......it is now!"
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Re: W Hep

Postby 3a » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:40 am

felix wrote:What are these BBC commentators ON?

"Chernova has only clawed back 13 points on Ennis in the LJ"...what?

Chernova - 6.54 = 1020 points
Ennis - 6.40 = 975 points


erm...45 points, I think.

She hit 6'48 on her last :lol:


What does this mean for Javelin??? How many metres does she have on Cherny?
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Re: W Hep

Postby SteveK26 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:44 am

Enough!
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Re: W Hep

Postby djhdjh » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:46 am

Has Chernova had her last jump? If she finished on 6.54 then it's 14 and a bit metres. In other words she can have a Daegu level disaster and still have a decent lead. Looks like a solid (and better) Long Jump has indeed done the job.
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Re: W Hep

Postby alfie7 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:47 am

felix wrote:What are these BBC commentators ON?

"Chernova has only clawed back 13 points on Ennis in the LJ"...what?

Chernova - 6.54 = 1020 points
Ennis - 6.40 = 975 points


erm...45 points, I think.


I think Mr Fordyce was getting his centimeters mixed up with his heptathlon points...his maths were also a bit out :)

In defence , he is busy across a few sports...

Much more relaxed here after the 6.40 :D
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Re: W Hep

Postby felix » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:48 am

Ennis 290 points ahead of Chernova I think
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Re: W Hep

Postby d pickup » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:17 pm

Tuckin wrote:Another statistical viewpoint - what if any of her rivals matched their PBs in each of the last three events? (Thankfully very unlikely in most cases.)

Chernova 6,924 (Anyone who does 6.82, 54.49 and 2:06.50 in one day deserves a medal!)
Fountain 6,747 (but her javelin PB is years old and she's not been close to it since)
Schwarzkopf 6,743
Skujyte 6,714 (but her PBs are 8, 5 and 8 years old, so this is unlikely)
Yosypenko 6,690
Dobrynska 6,675
Zelinka 6,555
Schippers 6,476 (but she's improving all the time)
Savitskaya not a factor

(Jess's PB-matching scores would leave her with 6,969, btw.)

Jess, Chernova, Schwarzkopf?


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Thanks for all those figures. As has ben said Fountain is hungry and Skujyte has found a 2nd life (no 3rd life) in her career; and now I must catch up with what's actually happening.
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Re: W Hep

Postby djhdjh » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:35 pm

46.61 - the javelin rock solid as almost always. The only question now is 7000 (48m and 2.06). Goodnight.
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Re: W Hep

Postby SteveK26 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:38 pm

.....unless, of course, Chernova can throw a world record javelin , and run under 2 minutes for the 800!! :roll: :roll:
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Re: W Hep

Postby Packin_Snacks » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:38 pm

So then, anyone on here still think Jess can't do it?

Because from where I'm sitting unless Chernova literally chucks the javelin out of the stadium during the next two rounds and takes a massive chunk out of her 800m pb, there is very little chance of Ennis being caught now in my opinion. :)
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Re: W Hep

Postby alfie7 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:40 pm

That seems to have settled it :D

Now it is can she get 7000 and who gets second...Well done Jess !
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Re: W Hep

Postby Packin_Snacks » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:50 pm

Chernova is doing what some people have suggested could happen to her when the pressure is on... she's crumbling. (Which is a damn shame because she's a fine athlete)

(Although perhaps a mitigating circumstance for the russian might be that strapping around her right elbow... Perhaps an injury is preventing Chernova from throwing at her best.)
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Re: W Hep

Postby trevorp » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:55 pm

Pleased that Louise Hazel got a PB in the javelin after a near-PB in the shot yesterday. At least that's something to take away from a disappointing competition for her. Her running and jumping have been poor this year. Let's hope she can recover her form next year.
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Re: W Hep

Postby Packin_Snacks » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:01 pm

Well what do you know, third throw for Jess ends up in a pb... Utterly and completely assured of victory now.
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Re: W Hep

Postby sidelined » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:07 pm

Yay!! Well done Jess. And how great to see the stadium still packed to the rafters.
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Re: W Hep

Postby Ursus » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:08 pm

Now bouncing on sofa, smirking stupidly :D :D

Looking forwrd to the 2 lap coronation!
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Re: W Hep

Postby felix » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:15 pm

Gives you a warm glow to see the crowds still there at gone 2pm, watching the JT in the Heptathlon! Wonderful!

True heroes and role models for kids are these athletes - no WAG-chasing, overpaid, foul-mouthed personalities here!
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Re: W Hep

Postby jjimbojames » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:21 pm

Great throw by Jess. I hope someone's up for a fast 800m, but Tyminska has pulled out, so hopefully Chernova will go for it to get the silver medal. Jess will need sub-2.06 for 7000 points and with the medal pretty much guaranteed, now is as good a time as any
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Re: W Hep

Postby 3a » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:24 pm

What an amazing morning. The rest of them simply flunked.

Hope Austra hangs on for the silver as she is the only other athlete who really brought it, Cherny can dis lodge Yosypenko from the podium though.


CONGRATS to Jess, AMAZING ATHLETE, amazing morning....and it;s going to be an incredible evening. :D :D :D
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Re: W Hep

Postby iain » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:31 pm

I hope Skujtye medals, what are her and Yospenkos's PBs? Also, while I expect Jess to win, I wish people would stop hanging the medal around Jess' neck! She still has an event to go, and anything could happen. For all we know she could fall over or pull a muscle!
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