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Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby trevorp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:35 pm

Just starting (6.35pm)
http://cricfree.tv/euro-sports.php

Results here:
http://www.spitzenleichtathletik.ch/ergebnisse/
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby trevorp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:44 pm

Seems Christian Malcolm false started in the 100m C race. Marlon Devonish 2nd in 10.52

200m B race won by Danny Talbot 20.52 PB (0.4)
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Mattrh17 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:01 pm

Mens A 100m - Blake 1st 9.85 and Dasaolu 5th 10.12 seasons best (+1.6)
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Mattrh17 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:05 pm

Kate Dennison also won the Pole Vault with 4.56m, again a Season's best!
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby trevorp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:05 pm

Dasaolu simply HAS to be on the relay team.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby iain » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:11 pm

Dasaolu actually joint 4th with Lerone Clarke! Sad to see DFM in pre programme b race.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Ecosse » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:12 pm

Was 10.19 that came up for Dasaolu on Eurosport wrong then? Very decent if it was 10.12!
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Mattrh17 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:14 pm

With a line up of Chambers, Dasaolu, Malcolm and Gemili there would at least be an outside chance. Dwain needs to find some form though, seems to have been a season too far for him this year ironically.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Rapunzel1975 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:16 pm

Ecosse wrote:Was 10.19 that came up for Dasaolu on Eurosport wrong then? Very decent if it was 10.12!

That's what I thought! They've changed it on the results page though.
http://www.spitzenleichtathletik.ch/ergebnisse/day1.htm
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby trevorp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:18 pm

Ecosse wrote:Was 10.19 that came up for Dasaolu on Eurosport wrong then? Very decent if it was 10.12!

That's what the official results originally showed too. Thanks to Matt for posting the amended time.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm

The results have changed again! Something clearly wrong, as I just rewound the recording and Dasaolu finishes 6th IMO, just ahead of 7th and a long way ahead of the Swiss guy in lane 8 - but that's not what they've got!
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby trevorp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:44 pm

If the feed has died for anyone else, this is working for me:
http://mypremium.tv/stream/?id=1454&1334738463
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Rapunzel1975 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:45 pm

jjimbojames wrote:The results have changed again! Something clearly wrong, as I just rewound the recording and Dasaolu finishes 6th IMO, just ahead of 7th and a long way ahead of the Swiss guy in lane 8 - but that's not what they've got!

It's changing by the second! 10.19 again now!
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Ecosse » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:46 pm

jjimbojames wrote:The results have changed again! Something clearly wrong, as I just rewound the recording and Dasaolu finishes 6th IMO, just ahead of 7th and a long way ahead of the Swiss guy in lane 8 - but that's not what they've got!


Yeah they've got the Swiss guy finishing with 10.11! Pretty sure he trailed in about 10.6. I reckon Dasaolu's 10.19 is correct though. Half decent time but he's got plenty to work on before London though, hopefully we'll see some improvement by then.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Mattrh17 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:49 pm

Haha, well that's a shame but still a solid time if not brilliant. I still agree with trevorp that he should be in the relay team though.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:57 pm

Mattrh17 wrote:he should be in the relay team though.

Not even a question - he has to be in. Second only to Gemili on the rankings
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Ecosse » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:00 pm

jjimbojames wrote:
Mattrh17 wrote:he should be in the relay team though.

Not even a question - he has to be in. Second only to Gemili on the rankings


Malcolm/Talbot - Dasaolu - Gemili - Chambers possibly?
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:04 pm

Ecosse wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:
Mattrh17 wrote:he should be in the relay team though.

Not even a question - he has to be in. Second only to Gemili on the rankings


Malcolm/Talbot - Dasaolu - Gemili - Chambers possibly?

In another thread I went for Malcolm-Dasaolu-Talbot-Gemili, explanation on other thread...
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby 3a » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:16 pm

Agree with the above relay. It's a young team too which is great, aside from Christian, obv.

Really like Ryan Wilson. Wish he could tidy his technique and find consistency. I seriously thought he was coming through to win us trials until he hit the seventh. Shame to see someone as talented as him, (13flat) never make a major champs.

Something up with the clock In the men's 200 IMO
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Ecosse » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:18 pm

Had anyone heard of this 21 year old Jason Young before this meet? 10.06 in the 100m B race and 19.86 in the 200m. Unreal depth of talent Jamaica have.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Ecosse » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:19 pm

3a wrote:Agree with the above relay. It's a young team too which is great, aside from Christian, obv.

Really like Ryan Wilson. Wish he could tidy his technique and find consistency. I seriously thought he was coming through to win us trials until he hit the seventh. Shame to see someone as talented as him, (13flat) never make a major champs.

Something up with the clock In the men's 200 IMO


I reckon the time is correct. He had just run 10.06 and was miles ahead of everyone else. Malcolm ran 20.8
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:20 pm

3a wrote:Agree with the above relay. It's a young team too which is great, aside from Christian, obv.

Really like Ryan Wilson. Wish he could tidy his technique and find consistency. I seriously thought he was coming through to win us trials until he hit the seventh. Shame to see someone as talented as him, (13flat) never make a major champs.

Something up with the clock In the men's 200 IMO

Let's hope the selectors agree with it too! I often think many an armchair fan would pick better line ups than we've had

19.86 confirmed :shock: He didn't look too surprised/bothered :?
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:23 pm

OK - VCB has clearly given up her OG 200m crown - how does she lose to ChaRonda Williams in 22.5 :?
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Ecosse » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:24 pm

jjimbojames wrote:
Ecosse wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:
Mattrh17 wrote:he should be in the relay team though.

Not even a question - he has to be in. Second only to Gemili on the rankings


Malcolm/Talbot - Dasaolu - Gemili - Chambers possibly?

In another thread I went for Malcolm-Dasaolu-Talbot-Gemili, explanation on other thread...


I like that team too but I'd just be worried that we would be accommodating both Talbot and Malcolm for Chambers. Think i'd rather see either one or the other. I'd love to see Gemili on anchor but I don't think we have enough good bend runners to do this. I'll check out your reasoning on the other thread though.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:31 pm

Reese chewing away as she runs - slightly concerning that she might choke as she goes surely :?
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Rapunzel1975 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:36 pm

Ecosse wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:
Ecosse wrote:
jjimbojames wrote:
Mattrh17 wrote:he should be in the relay team though.

Not even a question - he has to be in. Second only to Gemili on the rankings


Malcolm/Talbot - Dasaolu - Gemili - Chambers possibly?

In another thread I went for Malcolm-Dasaolu-Talbot-Gemili, explanation on other thread...


I like that team too but I'd just be worried that we would be accommodating both Talbot and Malcolm for Chambers. Think i'd rather see either one or the other. I'd love to see Gemili on anchor but I don't think we have enough good bend runners to do this. I'll check out your reasoning on the other thread though.

Based on Malcolm's first half tonight, I'd be inclined to leave him on the start as he was up there with leaders at that point. I'd leave the decision on whether to include Chambers until after the individual, as he often peaks well for Champs. Agree with both Gemili and Dasaolu definately. Would probably go Malcolm-Dasaolu-Talbot-Gemili. If Chambers joined in I would put him on anchor and Gemili on the bend.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jeremy1 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:57 pm

10.19 with a plus 1.6 tailwind ; worth about 10.20 ish with nil wind so by world standards pretty poor; he wont be in the semis in London

If we are top six in the Relay with the guys mentioned in the previous posts about the best we can expect. :(
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby Guto Nyth Bran » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:57 pm

jeremy1 wrote:10.19 with a plus 1.6 tailwind ; worth about 10.20 ish with nil wind so by world standards pretty poor; he wont be in the semis in London


Maybe you're right - but remember that they'll be 24 semi-finalists and only around 10 of this year's world top 25 will be in London.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby TheRealSub10 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:25 pm

If you watched that race you know James D can run a LOT faster than that - he stumbled on step 2 or 3 and absolutely screwed up the last 20-30m. If he can get it together he can be in the 9.9-10.0 range. As for the relay I can't see him being it in. He hasn't practice it for perhaps 2-3 years. I think he'd turn the place down even if someone was crazy enough to take a VERY big risk on him.
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Re: Luzern meeting, 17 July

Postby jjimbojames » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:38 pm

Because those that HAVE been practicing have done SO well...!

It might seem risky, but the truth is that the 'safe' option isn't safe, and it's slow - so we may as well try something different
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