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Kladno 2012 (Klucinova 6283, KJT="The Kat" 6248)

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:09 am

Not wanting for a moment to detract from dp's definitive HEP thread,
but this has got to be worth a thread of its own.


http://www.iaaf.org/Mini/WCE12/Results/ ... code=4912/
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:13 am

PB from KJT in hurdles, apparently into the teeth of a howling gale (-2.6)!!
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby felix » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:19 am

http://www.desetiboj-kladno.cz/eng/index.htm is not showing 100mh results yet!

Have to rely on the notoriously slow IAAF results website, I'm afraid:

w100mh (1010 BST)

13.60 Hazel
13.62 KJT
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby hemlock » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:20 am

Solid 13.60 (-0.8 ) from Hazel.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby BigGut » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:23 am

How unlucky is that -2.6 heat immediately after -0.8, hope it doesn't cost her.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:29 am

BigGut wrote:How unlucky is that -2.6 heat immediately after -0.8, hope it doesn't cost her.


Yes. But given that she stomped on her PB, she seems to be making her own luck.

(Interesting to think that +2.6 would be fine in the HEP context, right?
What difference in time does a +5.2m/s swing make in 100mh?...)
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby PJS » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:36 am

I really hope that both Ms. Hazel and KJT perform at the top of their game with KJT getting the "A" standard that she fully warrants...

Is anyone able to translate these results (and the ones to come) into actual " points" as I will be pretty much watching this forum for the results through the day...

As a footnote...I saw Ms. Hazel compete at Lea Valley, in the indoor season, and she is even cutter in real life...
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:41 am

How's this:

1 Francesca Doveri ITA 1040
P M W
1040 13.57 -0.8

2 Louise Hazel GBR 1036
P M W
1036 13.60 -0.8

3 Katarina Johnson-Thompson GBR 1033
P M W
1033 13.62 -2.6
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby PJS » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:48 am

thank you ever so much Paul... I really want KJT to get the "A" standard ... any stats (ie projections; actual against PBs;) welcome :))
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby Kermit » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:59 am

Yesterday I came across an android phone app that converts times/distances into points. It's called Athletics Assistant and is free.

Two other apps were also available, one is London 2012 and the other is the excellent European Athletics, both of them are also free.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby Mr Halibut » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:54 pm

From twitter: KJT HJ result 1.86.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby felix » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:02 pm

Mr Halibut wrote:From twitter: KJT HJ result 1.86.


Which twitter account Mr Halibut? I am following several, but no wHJ details or results yet.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby damienc » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:05 pm

@WellsSports

3 close attempts at 1.89!
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby felix » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:10 pm

damienc wrote:@WellsSports

3 close attempts at 1.89!


Many thanks damienc :D
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby djhdjh » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:24 pm

Equal PB's all the way down from here get an A Standard (6204 vs 6150).
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby BernardII » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:37 pm

11.83m in the shot for KJT - yet another PB! I hope the wind dies down in time for the 200m.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby PJS » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:53 pm

wow.. .this is a great performance so far for KJT ...anyone able to do the points (projections... comparisons...et al) ... and news about Ms. Hazel?
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby usedtoit33 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:55 pm

This is a really useful Combined events calculator:

http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calculators/combinedEventsScoring/

Fingers crossed for good winds for the 200 and LJ tomorrow.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:59 pm

After 3 events:
rank 7th Louise Hazel GBR 2549
1036 13.60 ( -0.8 )
795 1.65
718 12.86

That is a big PB in the SP
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby PJS » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:07 pm

thank you gentleman ... I was being a bit lazy... :))

I know there a lot of smart forum users out there... but do coaches actually look at some kind of effort/reward mathematical modelling ... to optimise training... when its about the "aggregation of the margins" as the performance director of UK cycling talks about, a little more effort in shot putt, might gain more points, than an equal amount more effort in high jump for example (ceteris paribus - I am an old economics graduate)

it seems while Ms. Hazel has improved on her shot putt, she has not had a good day in high jump...

when training for combined events I am convinced a quantitative analysis approach to points likely to be gained is worth a look...

comments welcome...
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby djlovesyou » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:32 pm

The first heat of the 200m is up and the wind was -4.6. A bit worrying, hope it's calmer tomorrow or they do the long jump with the wind.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:45 pm

heroic 23.88 (almost PB) for KJT into -1.6!
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:46 pm

Hazel 24.76 in same heat -- over half-sec down on PB -- shows how hard it was.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby paul » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:49 pm

Indeed Hazel was the closest overall to KJT across the entire field, yet was still almost a second behind her.

I wonder who is the youngster in this big international field.... :shock:
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby djlovesyou » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:54 pm

It'll be gutting if she misses out by a small margin. These winds make it quite frustrating for a multi eventer who only has very limited chances to get the standard.

And some of our good friends think the hammer throwers have it tough when it comes to qualifying opportunities. :wink:

Excellent stuff so far though, here's hoping for a calmer day and some great performances tomorrow. You would think that if it was within her grasp going into the 800, she won't let the chance slip.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby djhdjh » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:16 pm

This should be relatively easy, no? 6.46 in the Long Jump followed by 36 in the Javelin and 2.17.0 in the 800 is enough with 29 points to spare. I have a lot of faith in KJT, I know it's hardly a unique opinion but she'll win global medals one day. Probably break Ennis's NR as well.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby Maza1987 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:23 pm

Screw the conditions.

I'm getting the impression from reading these results that KJT's simply going to will her way to the A standard come what may. But just think of what she could've done in the hurdles and 200m if it were still conditions (let alone tailwinds).
She's coming along just nicely. 8)

And well done Hazel on the SP.
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby b-athletics » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:06 pm

KJT seems very determined, her sprints I am especially pleased with.
I did some rough wind calculations for her hurdles and if there was no wind her time would of 13.3 ish
However, if there was a following wind of (2.6) She would of broken the 13 second barrier! :D
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby PJS » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:29 pm

great day for KJT ...

let me ask... if it came to it and KJT needed a 2:15.XX do you think Ms. Hazel would step up and say "I'll pace you round so you will get the A" standard." like a domestique??

I so want KJT to get the "A" standard... and to my mind, and we've been here before, its all about the Javelin!
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Re: Kladno 2012

Postby Geoff » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:34 pm

b-athletics wrote:KJT seems very determined, her sprints I am especially pleased with.
I did some rough wind calculations for her hurdles and if there was no wind her time would of 13.3 ish
However, if there was a following wind of (2.6) She would of broken the 13 second barrier! :D


Those winf calculations may be, at a real stretch, applicable to a flat 100m but hurdles are different. I guess KJT is capable of running in the 13.4's at the moment in ideal conditions. A great start though and I'd put money on her getting the 'A' standard with a PB in the javelin along the way!
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