Mervyn Luckwell 81.05m!! (2011 update - 83.52m!)

[Oleg]

Big news in the javelin - Merv Luckwell threw 81.05m today in France. 2nd furthest in the world this year and puts him in the frame for a victory at the Euro winter throws meet.

[lsabre]

Wow, that's great news for the men's javelin indeed! You've always been telling me Oleg of Merwyn Luckwell's potential, so hopefully that means it is starting taking shape! First throw over 80m by a Brit in three years that is I believe...

[Javelin Sam]

i have been saying he's going to do this for about the last 3 years.. This season we will see at least 2 gb men over 80m and several around the 75m plus range.. Will the girls stand up to the challenge..

[Sportsman29]

Wow thats really impressive.

Number 8th all time in Britain and a World Champs A standard by 5cm.

Whos your other picks for the Jav then this season JavSam

Do you reckon Michael Allen will be abke to recapture the form that saw him picked for the Euro 200g Champs, shame that injuries stopped him.

[Caroline]

i have been saying he's going to do this for about the last 3 years.. This season we will see at least 2 gb men over 80m and several around the 75m plus range.. Will the girls stand up to the challenge..

Err... Goldie...?????

[Javelin Sam]

having seen mike allen train a couple of times this winter i think he will definately go over 80m this year. James campbell is looking much better especially after last week's squad session where he threw in excess of his pb!

Caroline.. I'm talking about girls other than goldie

[nevetssllim]

Caroline.. I'm talking about girls other than goldie

Err, what about Kelly

But seriously, that is great news! I've never heard of him!

[Geoff]

A fantastic start to the season and I hope he can build on it through the summer. Hopefully there will be a few others making break throughs as well, both men and women.

Well done to Mervyn and his coach.

[bevone]

The good thinking about this year is that merv threw 78m last year and the year before at national squads but never then replicated that in competition but obviously something has changed this year that has a positive effect somewhat.

At the last nat squad, Merv was head a shoulders better than the rest. The team gong out to the throws meet is quie a young but talented team so it will be interesting to see how they all do as many of them are coming off very good winters and throwing pb's in comps and in training.

The men's javelin is coming back to respectibilty and it would be nice to see a few people approaching 80m and beyond this year

[Javelin Sam]

Nevetssllim

Those in the know have been ranting on about mervyn luckwell for about 4 years now. He turned up to Jav Fest at eton and hit the javelin so hard but so badly and it still went 55m.. we said then that he was going to throw a long long way if he could line it up better. by the end of the season he had improved his pb from 54m to 69m....!!!!

the series he had in france was... 81m05 / 77m81 / 72m68 / X / 75m96 / X

the two NT's i'm informed were also over 80m but were either foulled at the line or the sector

the guy is huge

[damienc]

I think this is fantastic for mens javelin throwers and hopefully it means that those behind are spurred on to throw further. Although this might not always be the case, if we look at the success that Goldie has had, there isn't exactly a queue of British women knocking on the 60m door is there?

Brilliant result!!!

[Javelin Sam]

on the JCUK form we have been saying that there is a big change developing in the sport.. Merv is just one of a whole host of people who are going to push this event on in 2009.. expect there to be at least 3 people at the 2012 finals in the men's javelin!!

[meerada]

What javelin distances are good for U15? Any pointers for throwing the Javelin? I am currently throwing consistantly bewteen 38 and 42 metres. Is this any good for my age group (U15)? Is it worth me joining an athletics club? Also, does anyone know what the national average distance for my age is. One more question, what is the qualifying distances for things like County and England?
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[BernardII]

What javelin distances are good for U15? Any pointers for throwing the Javelin? I am currently throwing consistantly bewteen 38 and 42 metres. Is this any good for my age group (U15)? Is it worth me joining an athletics club? Also, does anyone know what the national average distance for my age is. One more question, what is the qualifying distances for things like County and England?

Are you a boy or a girl?

For a girl, 42m is excellent and would qualify you for for all national competitions.

For a boy, I'd say 42m is still very good. It ranks you 33rd on the rankings but isn't too far off the top 10. I'd assume that would qualify you for county competitions and probably national ones too.

It's always worth joining a club, no matter what ability you are. I'm not sure what your current training situation is but it's definitely a lot more fun if you train as part of a group with a coach who can help you improve. I would say definitely join a club.

[Ursus]

.. expect there to be at least 3 people at the 2012 finals in the men's javelin!!

I'd stick my neck out & say Sam's right. In fact I'd say there will be a least a dozen!

But none of them will be Brits.

[speedyg2012]

When he can throw well in international competition, then I'll be impressed.

I guess Okoye will learn as well while he watches the boys at Daegu.

[trickstat]

Funny how this thread re-emerges after Mervyn Luckwell threw a season's best of 77.10m on Saturday.

[TheRealSub10]

I saw him throwing a few weeks back and the spear was literally going into orbit! If only he could stay in one piece for any significant length of time and have enough opportunity to actually train technique he could be extremely good.

[Javelin Sam]

In Wales today Merv threw 83.52m and backed it up with 82.92m

[devonian]

In Wales today Merv threw 83.52m and backed it up with 82.92m

Wow , fantastic..well done to the big fella

[usedtoit33]

That's great! Someone told me he threw 80.60 the other week so he's doing really well! What was the meeting he threw in?

[Geoff]

Merv Luckwell's throw was at the Final Fling Throws Meeting in Wrexham. His throw of 83.52 came in the second round after an opening pb of 82.92. His only other valid throw was 75.92. It was a fairly still day with a damp but drying runway and even his warm up throws looked very long. His throw beat the previous stadium record of 79.28 held by Nigel Bevan. Richard Shuttleworth was second with a pb 72.52.

The event attracted around a hundred throwers of all ages across all four throws. In good conditions many of them enjoyed personal best performances.

[Ursus]

This makes me very happy.

Not just in the absolute distance, which is brilliant, but that's 2 in a row over 80, hopefully an indication of some new found consistency.

He should be a very happy bunny heading into winter.

[Flumpy]

Has been injured all season?

[Javelin Sam]

He had surgery on a shoulder injury last year and, I guess has been getting back on it. Question is... How much more will he progress next year. For those who actually know Merv, he is an absolute beast of a thrower. He generates so much power which has been erratic in the past but now seems to be more refined and controlled.. Esa is doing a great job with him

[bevone]

I first met Merv when I was taking his coach for a L3 jav session at Eton. I saw him throw once and coldnt believe what I saw - where the heck did you come from? I asked. Itold him thenand there that he would be an 85m thrower when he ligned iot up right - adn as I told him atthe time - that is better than I could do. So although he beat my track record at wrexham I was delighted to see him eat up a few more positions in the all time lists. Well done Merv! Luckwell, smuckwell!!!! CHuffed for you mate and good to seee you realising what you can do

[Geoff]

IOC Olympic Games, London 2012
UK Athletics Selection Policy (April 2011b)

Eligible Competitions
10. Qualifying performances must be achieved at one of the following competitions:
a) 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m, 1500m, 5000m, 10000m, 100mH, 110mH, 400mH, 3000mSC, High Jump, Pole Vault, Long Jump, Triple Jump, Shot Putt, Discus Throw, Hammer Throw, Javelin Throw, Heptathlon, Decathlon
i. Overseas competitions
events organised or authorised by the IAAF, its Area Associations or its Member Federations
ii. Domestic competitions
The Trials; UKA domestic televised event programme; domestic internationals; the Home Country Championships; the British Universities (BUCs) Championships; UKA UK Challenge Series events including Event Specific competitions such as the British Milers Club and Jumps & Throws series

I've hesitated in raising this but will Merv's 83.52 count as a UKA Olympic A standard?

[Geoff]

Some of you will probably have seen this but I have belatedly just come across Merv's 83.52 in Wrexham on YouTube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5A4PSE4 ... re=related

As can be seen the runway was damp and there was only a very light breeze so hopefully more to come in 2012.

[readtherules]

IOC Olympic Games, London 2012
UK Athletics Selection Policy (April 2011b)

Eligible Competitions
10. Qualifying performances must be achieved at one of the following competitions:
a) 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m, 1500m, 5000m, 10000m, 100mH, 110mH, 400mH, 3000mSC, High Jump, Pole Vault, Long Jump, Triple Jump, Shot Putt, Discus Throw, Hammer Throw, Javelin Throw, Heptathlon, Decathlon
i. Overseas competitions
events organised or authorised by the IAAF, its Area Associations or its Member Federations
ii. Domestic competitions
The Trials; UKA domestic televised event programme; domestic internationals; the Home Country Championships; the British Universities (BUCs) Championships; UKA UK Challenge Series events including Event Specific competitions such as the British Milers Club and Jumps & Throws series

I've hesitated in raising this but will Merv's 83.52 count as a UKA Olympic A standard?

How many other performances,A or B std ,sit outside the UKA qualification rules ?

Get out to some odd corner of NW france,Holland or Belgium and there would be no probs.Ditto windy valleys in USA.

[trickstat]

"i. Overseas competitions
events organised or authorised by the IAAF, its Area Associations or its Member Federations
ii. Domestic competitions
The Trials; UKA domestic televised event programme; domestic internationals; the Home Country Championships; the British Universities (BUCs) Championships; UKA UK Challenge Series events including Event Specific competitions such as the British Milers Club and Jumps & Throws series"

I agree that this is rather daft to say the least! There are dozens of events authorized by our Member Federation (UKA) that don't fall within the second category such as County Champs and area leagues. These may be held at quite well-known venues and officiated by highly-graded officials.