'Sprint' BBC Program

[Maza1987]

Who watched it?

I only got the last 30 mins because I was watching the murray match, but I thought it was great.
A real insight into what athletics means to them.
We only see them for 10 secs but the program really hit home about how they 'live it'. All the things they do when the cameras aren't around.

Does anyone know if there will be a repeat or if its online, maybe on bbc iplayer?

[nevetssllim]

Who watched it?

I only got the last 30 mins because I was watching the murray match, but I thought it was great.
A real insight into what athletics means to them.
We only see them for 10 secs but the program really hit home about how they 'live it'. All the things they do when the cameras aren't around.

Does anyone know if there will be a repeat or if its online, maybe on bbc iplayer?

Yes, it's on iplayer because I started watching it on there.

[TheRealSub10]

Certainly a nice insight into what it takes to make it to the top. Pitty the program didn't include buildup to this years AAAs with a changing of the guard as Simeon finished 2nd ahead of Craig.

[Patriot]

Completely agree. The 2008 season was almost completely omitted. Would have made for interesting viewing!

[Kermit]

A real eye opener in more ways than one. But the sheer fact that they have not added 2008 footage means (imo) that there will be people who will watch these forthcoming games thinking that Williamson is not the UK's number one.

One thing stood out a mile for me. The similarity in running style between Harry AA and Carl Lewis.

[Interested]

Kermit wrote:

there will be people who will watch these forthcoming games thinking that Williamson is not the UK's number one.

In actual fact, Williamson is not the UK's number one...

[Javelin Sam]

good shout Interested!!!

[Patriot]

Of course Williamson is UK No 1, at least as far as Beijing is concerned. And why should Chambers be automatically deemed to be No 1 on the basis of a trials victory? Emma Ania was fourth in the women's equivalent and has pretty much proven herself to be UK No1 this year (and no-one even mention *that* 11.05 which we all know is highly suspect).

[sub12man]

I thought the purpose of the program was to follow the development of a number of sprinters from 2006 to 2012. They will all have ups & downs along the way & as this is just episode 1 I am not sure why Kermit thinks it should end in the way he suggested.

Any how it did end by giving the most recent pb's (as opposed to the old pb's the program started with) for the 4 so anyone could work out their relaltive rankings.

[Oleg]

Of course Williamson is UK No 1, at least as far as Beijing is concerned. And why should Chambers be automatically deemed to be No 1 on the basis of a trials victory? Emma Ania was fourth in the women's equivalent and has pretty much proven herself to be UK No1 this year (and no-one even mention *that* 11.05 which we all know is highly suspect).

How many times has Chambers been beaten this season by Uk athletes and how many for Ania?

I enjoyed the programme, anyone know the format of following episodes - one every 6 months?

[Interested]

Kermit, Patriot

I am surprised and somewhat puzzled that you do not consider Chambers to be the current UK number one sprinter. Let us compare the performance results of both Chambers and Williamson for 2008, up to the present date.

Chambers took part in nine 60m races, winning eight and, in the other gaining silver medal in the World Indoor Championships. His best three times were: 6.54, 6.55 and 6.56
Williamson took part in seventeen 60m races, winning only five. His best times were 6.57, 6.61 and 6.61

Chambers competed in eleven races over 100m, winning ten, including a memorable victory over Williamson in the Olympic Trials. His best three times were 10.00, 10.05, 10.06
Williamson took part in nine 100m races, winning only three. His best times were 10.03, 10.16, 10.27

Chambers took part in one 200m race, finishing second in 21.07.
Williamson took part in two 200m races, finishing fifth and sixth, in a windy 21.54 (+2.5) and 22.07

Powerof10 figures reveal that Chambers was not placed outside the top two in any competition. Williamson has placed outside the top two in eleven of his races to date.

I hope you will accept that my view that Chambers is clearly UK number one is not based solely on his defeat of Williamson in the trials.

[Maza1987]

^^well said.

I think the point, however, being made was he's our number 1 for beijing.

[Interested]

Thanks, Maza...however,


Patriot asked:

why should Chambers be automatically deemed to be No 1 on the basis of a trials victory?

I hope the statistics listed in my post have knocked this myth on the head!
This is not to acknowledge the great talent of Simeon, but the facts speak for themselves...

[Flumpy]

Ok enough of this nonsense.

What has happened to the prog on iPlayer?

It was there earlier today but now it's not

Any idea??

[Kermit]

Interested you are correct. Chambers is the UK number 1, but that in itself actually proves my point. But for the purpose of the 4 shown on tv Chambers was neither seen, shown or mentioned. In fact it focused on the point that Pickering IS the number 1.

My wife walked in from work half way through the programme and it appeared to her that Pickering was number 1 even though she knew he wasn't.

Just slightly going off thread, did anyone see the Colin Jackson documentary - 75% fast twitch 25% super fast twitch!!!

[Kermit]

Ok enough of this nonsense.

What has happened to the prog on iPlayer?

It was there earlier today but now it's not

Any idea??

I can see that they have pulled it off the site, but there is no reason & it's not being shown on tv over the next 7 days. Have also searched the torrent sites and nobody has downloaded it - yet. Once they have, I will let you know

[Oleg]

Ok enough of this nonsense.

What has happened to the prog on iPlayer?

It was there earlier today but now it's not

Any idea??

I can see that they have pulled it off the site, but there is no reason & it's not being shown on tv over the next 7 days. Have also searched the torrent sites and nobody has downloaded it - yet. Once they have, I will let you know

Kermit,

I have the file on my computer to view in the bbc download iPlayer. Is it possible to share this file?

[Javelin Sam]

Just slightly going off thread, did anyone see the Colin Jackson documentary - 75% fast twitch 25% super fast twitch!!!

i was under the understanding that he had 75% fast twich muscle fibres.. of that 75%, 25% of it was Super Fast twich...

[Geoff]

Press the red button and go into sport and Sprint is now on television. Javelin Sam is right about the percentages.

[MarkC]

The focus of the show, that they have been making for the past 2 years, has been on young up and coming sprinters trying to make it. It's unfortunate that there wasn't more of 2008, but I think it was probably the right thing - it would have been impossible to do without bringing the whole sorry Chambers story up and that would have absolutely wrongly detracted from what the programme was all about

[TheRealSub10]

Just slightly going off thread, did anyone see the Colin Jackson documentary - 75% fast twitch 25% super fast twitch!!!

i was under the understanding that he had 75% fast twich muscle fibres.. of that 75%, 25% of it was Super Fast twich...

Otehrwise he'd have 100% fast twitch and not be able to perform any co-ordinated movements that he needs for his dancing! Only kidding. 25% IIx is pretty high but I'm sure others would be higher.

[Kermit]

Oleg even though the beeb says it is not possible to share and that the downloaded file will be deleted after a set amount of days I have been told it is possible for you to keep it for much longer (indefinitely) therefore it is possible to share the content.

[Kermit]

btw ..... can someone explain to me what super fast twitch is. My son said that I looked like a demented mad man the way that I was scrambling through my journals.

[Flumpy]

Oleg even though the beeb says it is not possible to share and that the downloaded file will be deleted after a set amount of days I have been told it is possible for you to keep it for much longer (indefinitely) therefore it is possible to share the content.

You can't share them and they delete themselves after 30 days.

It was there for a bit bvut i couldn't download. Then it disappeared completely

[TheRealSub10]

btw ..... can someone explain to me what super fast twitch is. My son said that I looked like a demented mad man the way that I was scrambling through my journals.

Type IIx fibres often wrongly refered to as type IIb. They just used simpleton language to make the film more accessible.

[Kermit]

Thanks sub-10 that was the point i successfully proved to my son, when I showed him my strength conditioning journals from the American College of Sports Medicine and other journals that helped me gain my level 3 Personal Training accreditation.

And before I forget - Flumpy Geoff is right. As I am writing this I am watching the first event of these games (Germany v Brazil, women's football) on the red button and one of the options (currently option 3) is "Sprint"

[Flumpy]

yeah it seems to be on constant repeat but I can't work out what time it's going to start each time

[run4miles]

Simeon posted this on his twitter page a few weeks ago.

http://video.yandex.ru/users/undz/view/3/#