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Re: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s

jeremy1 wrote:soviet
Glad you feel better now. :)



Best not to keep these things bottled up. By the way, Jeremy, have we ever discussed the true meaning of the word "integrity"? :lol:

(Contrary to how I may appear in print, I'm actually a very engaging conversationalist .. .. . ..)
by sovietvest
Tue May 21, 2013 2:32 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s
Replies: 37
Views: 1418

Re: Shanghai DL

One of the reasons for Nike NOT sponsoring him could be down to GR's UKA/Lottery contract which requires him to do some advertising in Addidas kit I think that applies to a lot of the GB team, Kermit. I don't think any of the other high profile GB team members have lost their Nike contracts (PSD &a...
by sovietvest
Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shanghai DL
Replies: 45
Views: 1315

Re: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s

I think Jeremy is right in that people played into Mo's hands in the 5000. I know I should let this go but my inner pedant is winning. Jeremy did not write that they played into Mo's hands (I did!). Jez wrote that "they handed him the golds on a plate". That is a common idiom with a clear...
by sovietvest
Tue May 21, 2013 9:39 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s
Replies: 37
Views: 1418

Re: Shanghai DL

What's happened to Greg R's sponsorship deal with Nike? Perhaps he rated his gold more than they did. Wonder who is agent is. The Chinese guy was impressive. They had 10 jumpers in the World's top 100 last year, including 2 Youths, so I suspect we may be seeing more reach world class before Rio. Hi...
by sovietvest
Mon May 20, 2013 12:25 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shanghai DL
Replies: 45
Views: 1315

Re: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s

Actually what you misinterpreted as a member of the touchy feely generation taking affront, was actually a cantankerous middle-aged man who can't resist disagreeing with you. I loved how you said others should study the London 5k and yet you yourself had mixed up two of the main protagonists. Pricel...
by sovietvest
Sun May 19, 2013 8:33 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s
Replies: 37
Views: 1418

Re: Shanghai DL

What's happened to Greg R's sponsorship deal with Nike? Perhaps he rated his gold more than they did. Wonder who is agent is.

The Chinese guy was impressive. They had 10 jumpers in the World's top 100 last year, including 2 Youths, so I suspect we may be seeing more reach world class before Rio.
by sovietvest
Sun May 19, 2013 7:00 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shanghai DL
Replies: 45
Views: 1315

Re: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s

You've mixed up Gebrmeskel and Gebrhiwet. It was Gebrmeskel who messed up. I expect him to beat Mo this year over 5. I suspect we actually agree over the 5k in London. The Ethiopians tactics played into Mo's hands but I took exception to the phrase about handing it to him on a plate. It devalues the...
by sovietvest
Sun May 19, 2013 6:51 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s
Replies: 37
Views: 1418

Re: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s

I'd just like to endorse Steve's comments about Mo. I disagree with Jeremy's belief that deep down Mo is focussed on the roads. He trains harder than anyone we've ever had other than Paula. (None of the Britisih distance legends we endlessly carp on about from the 70/s and 80s came close to Mo inter...
by sovietvest
Sun May 19, 2013 12:15 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: 2013 Outdoors medals and top 8s
Replies: 37
Views: 1418

Re: Athletes on the move

Interesting interview in this weeks Athletics Weekly on Maz; it appears Maz has long had a torn Piriformis muscle as the source of her problems, giving her back and hamstring problems for the past 5 years and part of the reason she loses power in the latter stages of races (though she doesn't deny ...
by sovietvest
Fri May 17, 2013 1:20 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Athletes on the move
Replies: 359
Views: 25731

Re: Outdoor Results 2013

I saw the earlier comments about that perennial topic: the poor tactics of our female middle distance runners. I don't see this as a Brit-only issue. The lack of non-rabbitted races has reduced the general levels of tactical nous. Where are the great racers? I can think of Savinova and Tomashova but...
by sovietvest
Thu May 16, 2013 10:04 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Outdoor Results 2013
Replies: 254
Views: 18917

Re: Outdoor Results 2013

Note the top 8 in the 100/200m in the World Juniors in 2010: Williams,Pinckney,Samuel,Purvis,Gunther Pinto,Laaman, Silas, in the 100m and Kendrick, Williams,Samuel,Selvon,,Purvis,Diamond(GB), Peter, Ichikawa in the 200m. None of the above have set the world of young sprinting alight and probably wi...
by sovietvest
Mon May 13, 2013 4:59 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Outdoor Results 2013
Replies: 254
Views: 18917

Re: Outdoor Results 2013

Thats it in a nutshell. Partly the USA has so many talented youngsters that some inevitably come through and, in addition, there is a strong culture of intense competition over there, obsession with winning is all, which attitudes and culture, I believe, is not the same here. In this country when s...
by sovietvest
Mon May 13, 2013 2:59 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Outdoor Results 2013
Replies: 254
Views: 18917

Re: Doha DL

Glad to note the usual NO comments on what was a fine first DL meet. God forbid the great British fans some of whom write copiously on another site can only mention Green, CO and f**k all else on this thread, with the feeble exuse that this is a British site. No reference of course to some fantasti...
by sovietvest
Mon May 13, 2013 2:33 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Doha DL
Replies: 63
Views: 1952

Re: Outdoor Results 2013

As long as she's fit, that's all that matters Mump, Did you and your brother ever get to do an interview with Jodie. I've lost the link to the website where you posted the interviews with Cathy F et al. Has Jodie started at University anywhere? It's frustrating to see the US sprinters who were her ...
by sovietvest
Mon May 13, 2013 2:24 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Outdoor Results 2013
Replies: 254
Views: 18917

Re: I'm a bit down on Steve Cram at the moment

It just goes to show that you can't please all of the people all of the time. I think Cram is the best sports braodcaster we have ever had and his commentary at the Olympics, particularly Mo's 5k, was the finest piece I've ever heard. I actually enjoy the Wladorf and Statler (sp?) double act wheneve...
by sovietvest
Mon May 13, 2013 9:17 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: I'm a bit down on Steve Cram at the moment
Replies: 34
Views: 1445

Re: One down.......Positive tests!

So do I Steve! It was a great programme. The most moving part though was listening to those East German athletes. Mike Costello said his initial idea was about a programme on Brits robbed of medals (as they most certainly were). In the end however he was left feeling that the likes of Smallwood and ...
by sovietvest
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:13 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: One down.......Positive tests!
Replies: 286
Views: 30254

Re: One down.......Positive tests!

so right, Steve. Let us hope that we hear no more about inadequate people cheating being considered as anything else but nasty excrescences on the backside of a great sport. I imagine therefore Jeremy, that you wouldn't have liked Hayley Tullett's comments last night. She showed a disturbing degree...
by sovietvest
Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:14 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: One down.......Positive tests!
Replies: 286
Views: 30254

Re: World Athletics Centre, Arizona

Yawn Can't do better than that,Trackstyles. that figures. You belong to those that believe that the new fashion of trotting off to the States must be beneficial to our athletes. Where is your evidence.. Great elitism but what have we got for all the money spent on expensive coaches and warm weather...
by sovietvest
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:00 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: World Athletics Centre, Arizona
Replies: 32
Views: 1110

Re: World Athletics Centre, Arizona

Yawn the new fashion of trotting off to the States. You cannot tell me why the previous generations of greats did not all feel the need to run off to the USA on a regular basis . But they did! Daley Thompson used to train for several months in the winter in the US. Black, Akabusi and Regis used to ...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:54 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: World Athletics Centre, Arizona
Replies: 32
Views: 1110

Re: Shawn Crawford banned

By no means is this proof, but Crawford gesture can only be regarded as evidence in favour of him being clean, but certain not definitive and nor would I claim it to be. Other possible explanations for his actions: 1) He may have had a firm belief that athletes shouldn't be penalised for minor lane...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:55 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shawn Crawford banned
Replies: 41
Views: 1060

Re: Shawn Crawford banned

So, according to the comments earlier of Sovietvest, an athlete who considers that others are cheating and starts to cheat him/herself is not getting an unfair advantage and therefore as a committed, consistent cheat like all the rest as he /she believes the situation to be, that athlete has integr...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:48 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shawn Crawford banned
Replies: 41
Views: 1060

Re: Shawn Crawford banned

[ The flaw in your theory is that if Crawford doped because he believed his competitors doped than he wouldn't have given away his medal to somebody he thought was on the juice. Don't get me wrong but in the vast majority of doping cases there is a clear "must win at all costs" mentality,...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:32 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shawn Crawford banned
Replies: 41
Views: 1060

Re: Shawn Crawford banned

HAA was huge at the age of 16 before he lifted a weight in training. There is no comparison to an athlete like Crawford with a physique that has changed considerably through his career (first bulking up, then losing it). Clearly he gained his 2004 physique in the gym; the suspicion of many is that ...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:27 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shawn Crawford banned
Replies: 41
Views: 1060

Re: Shawn Crawford banned

By the way, I have no idea if Crawford is suspicious or dirty. Bigness isn't a smoking gun IMO as our very own Harry Akines Aryeetey is frigging HUGE to a ridiculous degree and his performances almost certainly indicate he isn't doping. The fact that would suggest to me he isn't (and it's no eviden...
by sovietvest
Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:43 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Shawn Crawford banned
Replies: 41
Views: 1060

Re: What is Salazar thinking with our Mo?

Salazar's attitude to PEDs is fascinating. Over 10 years ago he wrote what is in my opinion a very intelligent and highly nuanced paper on the line between acceptable performance enhancement and cheating: http://law.duke.edu/sportscenter/salazar.pdf I like this because he recognises just what a grey...
by sovietvest
Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:11 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: What is Salazar thinking with our Mo?
Replies: 14
Views: 783

Re: What is Salazar thinking with our Mo?

I agree. Before anyone starts making throwaway comments about Thyroxine as a PED they should read this: http://www.sportsscientists.com/2013/04/the-thyroid-medication-debate-is-it.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FcJKs+%28The+Science+of+Sport%29 FW...
by sovietvest
Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:24 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: What is Salazar thinking with our Mo?
Replies: 14
Views: 783

Re: All star cast at London Anniversary Games

£500K plus prize money - all tax free - for a few seconds work, a bit of corporate glad handing, and a few insightless interviews. The world's gone mad. Bolt is a brilliant brilliant athlete but whoever agreed that deal needs carting off by the men in white coats. There is no other word than obscen...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:50 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: All star cast at London Anniversary Games
Replies: 35
Views: 1679

Re: All star cast at London Anniversary Games

I would rather watch a race with Shelly Anne Fraser, VCB, Jeter who do take to the circuit and race each other regularly. I don't think Bolt and Blake do the sport any favours by dodging each other, just their egos and pride. No athlete is bigger than the sport. I think you reflect the general feel...
by sovietvest
Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:40 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: All star cast at London Anniversary Games
Replies: 35
Views: 1679

Re: VIRGIN LONDON MARATHON

I find it really funny that there are roars of approval whenever somoene says young Brits don't train hard enough and they are cossetted but then when a coach has success with his athletes he gets labelled an over-trainer! (OK - it may be that the comments come from completely different quarters bu...
by sovietvest
Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:44 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: VIRGIN LONDON MARATHON
Replies: 73
Views: 2307

Re: VIRGIN LONDON MARATHON

I find it really funny that there are roars of approval whenever somoene says young Brits don't train hard enough and they are cossetted but then when a coach has success with his athletes he gets labelled an over-trainer! (OK - it may be that the comments come from completely different quarters but...
by sovietvest
Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:10 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: VIRGIN LONDON MARATHON
Replies: 73
Views: 2307
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