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Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

It means that participation has increased, not decreased. So it is quite an important distinction for a supposedly analytical piece.
by BigGut
Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:52 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: New head of Field and Combined Events

Aston, I don't see how Peter Stanley being employed in this role will get the IAAF to lower their standards. Their A standard for the 2012 games was 8.25 and no B could be sent if an A was selected. In the 2013 world champs the A standard was 8.20 and the B 8.10 and JJ didn't hit the B standard in 2...
by BigGut
Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:16 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: New head of Field and Combined Events
Replies: 13
Views: 381

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Hank, Of course not. I am saying that the percentage of events held which have result son PoT went up from 90% to 97%. Applying the 20% of people only compete in 1 event principle this would mean that 1.55% extra participants would be present in these events. However since the 2012 power of 10 ranki...
by BigGut
Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:13 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Just to clarify, I don't really think the stat of which top 3 all time performances are pre and post UKA is really all that important. My concern is the overall strength now compared to overall strength at any other point in time. We have had some exceptionally talented athletes in some events, but ...
by BigGut
Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:00 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Hank, Given your own figures of 20% only compete once, why does it make sense to you to assume that the extra 7% of events recorded in 2013 compared with 2012 would have resulted in 5% extra unique competitors. Given the very safe assumption that the extra meetings would be smaller meetings is it no...
by BigGut
Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:55 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: Should London Marathon Offer Prizes Only To British Athl

I'd liken what I am suggesting to the approach of Comrades. It's about making it more than just a fun run, something that it is a genuine achievement to do. It may not be the route to the top but it would certainly mean that training daily would be something that more people had to do. If you think ...
by BigGut
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:42 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Should London Marathon Offer Prizes Only To British Athletes
Replies: 16
Views: 252

Re: Should London Marathon Offer Prizes Only To British Athl

Forget the front of the race, London and the other UK marathons could have a far greater effect by dealing with the back of the field. If we want to see a depth of performance return then we need to alter the national psyche towards marathon. We need to stop letting people think plodding round Londo...
by BigGut
Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:58 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Should London Marathon Offer Prizes Only To British Athletes
Replies: 16
Views: 252

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

The active people survey includes analysis by sport. The specific file on athletics includes a table on the main discipline that people who do "athletics" do. Whittingham wrongly states that the figure shows that track and field athletics is there main sport. It doesn't, it's merely about ...
by BigGut
Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:26 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

I used the stats on gbrathletics.com for top 3 performers by year, then merged them into a single table and performed a vlookup to compare individual years to a selected year.
by BigGut
Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:49 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Hank,

I agree that the numbers will be accurate, but the numbers show an increase in participation.
by BigGut
Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:29 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Coach, I am saying, and the facts bear this out, that if you take the top 3 ranked athletes in a year in every event and compare them with the top 3 from single years from the past our squad now is better. That is a fact. Jeremy, That figure you quote I assume is the figure from the active people su...
by BigGut
Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:32 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

I'm commenting on the piece coach linked to.
by BigGut
Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:48 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

The figures may well be accurately measured for what they give as the definition but the analysis is utter nonsense. The claimed drop in participation is actually based on an assumption that the 7% of extra results from 2012 would have resulted in an extra 5% participants. That is a massive leap, it...
by BigGut
Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:24 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 41
Views: 1046

Re: Zharnel Hughes

Utter nonsense. You attack people for debating what has been said. A perfect example is earlier in this thread where I pointed out the ludicrous inconsistancy with what you say. I didn't attack you personally, I debated what you had said. In return nothing but a personal attack. In addition you have...
by BigGut
Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:41 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Zharnel Hughes
Replies: 120
Views: 3727

Re: Zharnel Hughes

So Coach admires athletes from wherever they come from and does not feel any more attached to anyone from the UK than any other nation, believing nationalistic boundaries to be outsdated.... But yet... He goes absolutley apoplectic when any foreign coach is employed by the governing body. That makes...
by BigGut
Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:31 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Zharnel Hughes
Replies: 120
Views: 3727

Re: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?

Exile, I get what you mean and I am not arguing about it's official status. What I am saying is that it doesn't matter if one person says they are "racing it", if the people they are racing don't know it's a race then they cannot be racing them. For you to be "racing it" not only...
by BigGut
Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:50 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?
Replies: 42
Views: 2491

Re: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?

That somebody is racing it does not make the event a race.
by BigGut
Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:00 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?
Replies: 42
Views: 2491

Re: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?

Exile, surely you can't decide its a race, everybody you are competing against needs to know its a race else you are trying to beat somebody who doesn't know you are racing. Its a bit like playing your mate at pool, beating him after he went fir loads of trick shots, then announcing to him that it w...
by BigGut
Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:25 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?
Replies: 42
Views: 2491

Re: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?

It's no more a race than me and my mates going for a run together. I am sick and tired of seeing results of park run presented as race results in my local paper. What next? People submitting when they take a KOM on strava to the local press? Clubs sending in the times recorded in track reps? Its a r...
by BigGut
Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:15 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: parkrun - a 'run' or a 'race'?
Replies: 42
Views: 2491

Re: Indoor season 2013/14

Handy opener from Lee Emmanuel. 3:54.3 in Boston at the New Balance games. Defeated Edinburgh short course victor Garrett Heath in the process. Lets hope he gets the shoe deal he's after and kicks on. If he can join Ross Murray and Chris O'hare in a 3 way battle to top the domestic scene, Farah asid...
by BigGut
Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:17 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Indoor season 2013/14
Replies: 183
Views: 18712

Re: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK t

Seb Coe won more medals than Mo Farah? Really? Coe Olympic - 2 Gold 2 Silver World - European - 1 Gold, 2 Silver, 1 Bronze Farah Olympic - 2 Gold World - 3 Gold 1 Silver European - 3 Gold 1 Silver That is ignoring his 7 indoor and cross country medals. Please if you are going to make statements at l...
by BigGut
Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:47 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK taxes
Replies: 66
Views: 4691

Re: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK t

Spot on. What Eldy is calling fir is essentially for Mo to engage in tax avoidance by not paying tax in the country he resides in.
by BigGut
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:51 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK taxes
Replies: 66
Views: 4691

Re: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK t

Eldanielfire, I think you ate confusing your loopholes. The Google loophole was for corporation tax. There was nothing I can find saying that their staff in the UK were not paying income tax in the UK. Its also irrelevant. You are saying that Farah SHOULD pay tax in the UK. But the only example you ...
by BigGut
Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:42 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK taxes
Replies: 66
Views: 4691

Re: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK t

Frankly what Mo is doing is not the best thing for Mo, it's the only right thing to do. If you live and work in a country then that is where you should pay your tax. It's not as if he is pretending to live in the British Virgin Isles or Monaco. He lives in America, he drives on their roads, is prote...
by BigGut
Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:34 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: "Mo Farah to join the 'Plastic Brits' avoids paying UK taxes
Replies: 66
Views: 4691

Re: Coaches; Mugs or What?

The anniversary games were the London Diamond League. The gaurdian article points out that it was De Vos who decided that it should be held as the anniversary event and as a result it was far more successful than any previous diamond league. The £9million is taken directly from the inside the games ...
by BigGut
Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:03 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Coaches; Mugs or What?
Replies: 65
Views: 5027

Re: Are GB Athletes living up to potential ?

I always think we expect too much of athletes as they move through. In many cases when people reach the world of work they simply do not progress, In childhood you do sport as a hobby, success or failure is a vest or a medal or a record. Then in adulthood the time spent doing this has to be weighed ...
by BigGut
Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:31 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Are GB Athletes living up to potential ?
Replies: 114
Views: 9472

Re: Coaches; Mugs or What?

If coaches want paying then let them charge. It's that simple. Nobody is stopping any coach from charging their athletes or the club they coach for. That said my old club used to pay some coaching expenses, in particular nobody ever had to pay for courses from their own pocket as it was the club tha...
by BigGut
Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:20 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Coaches; Mugs or What?
Replies: 65
Views: 5027

Re: Athletes on the move

The only way i can see a true pathway being achieved is for the sport to become properly segregatted. I have said for a long time that Club athletics belongs at the grass roots and that club competition does little to assist the development of somebody who is on the verge of international class. Thi...
by BigGut
Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:37 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Athletes on the move
Replies: 471
Views: 49317

Re: Athletes on the move

I haven't posted for a while but this thread caught my eye. Basically I agree with an earlier comment. Coaches should charge what they want to charge. They need to charge the people who employ them, this would be either the clubs who they coach for, at grass root level this will be mostly the case, ...
by BigGut
Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:58 am
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: Athletes on the move
Replies: 471
Views: 49317

Re: progression,regression or standing still

Haven't posted in ages, but couldn't let this one pass: As far as Moscow is concerned, I am not disappointed, in the main, because I think we are standing stil and achieved individually what I expected; not that much, frankly. How on earth do you balance that statement with I had a shot at points pr...
by BigGut
Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:09 pm
 
Forum: Current events
Topic: progression,regression or standing still
Replies: 71
Views: 4166
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