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Re: England CWG Team

I don't think you can compare the Aussies and the English, mainly because the Aussies don't have the Euros this summer.
by BigGut
Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:55 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

And people generally give times recorded at La Chaux de Fonds short shrift, yet this was Kilty's only UKA A standard perfromance of 2013. Outside of that and a windy 20.50 his best was 20.54. So again the selectors couldn't win. They would have picked an athlete with a single qualifying time perform...
by BigGut
Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:50 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

Allan, Are there going to be mistakes, yes! No method is perfect and that is the point. You cannot possibly write a perfect set in stone selection criteria. If it could be done then it would have been done by now. There are so many circumstances which require the exercise of judgement to reach the o...
by BigGut
Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:57 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

I'd just like these folks who think you can write simple rules to cover all possible eventualities and pick the best team to enlighten us all as to what these sole rules would be. I'd also point out that even when there are simple rules people get upset. Take Richard Yates, clearly achieved his time...
by BigGut
Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:02 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

Allan, Forst off that post was after you instogatedd personal comments, I asked what was personal in my original post on the matter. "The simple minded approach" You left out "of who has the fastest SB. I wasn't saying anybody was personally simple minded. "making it simple so th...
by BigGut
Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:06 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

Allan, I have not accussed any poster of not understanding. I have said that who has the quicker SB is simple minded, and it is. I haven't said anything other than that on that subject. So please no accussations of me taking a pop at posters. You accused other posters of not understanding purely bec...
by BigGut
Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:29 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

Allan, Please don't confuse not agreeing with you with not appreciating the bigger picture. The simple minded approach of who has the fastest SB completely fails to deal with the bigger picture. It doesn't look at competitive ability or at development. As Larkim says the idea of head to head also fo...
by BigGut
Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:17 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: England CWG Team

Spot on. There are so many circumstances that make selection by stopwatch a ridiculous way to pick the team. Conditions, race scenario, how far out the SB was performed. It's all valid to consider when picking a team.# I would add that I am also in the camp that would pick a developing and improving...
by BigGut
Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:17 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: England CWG Team
Replies: 83
Views: 6816

Re: Eugene Diamond League

So you don't think Jemma Simpson is getting the run in the A race because she is a memeber of the Oreogon Track Club Elite set up, based at the track where the meeting is happening and run by the promoters of the meeting?
by BigGut
Fri May 30, 2014 10:13 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: Eugene Diamond League
Replies: 38
Views: 3393

Re: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014

Jeremy, The original post said "Through either injury, llness or pregnancy or a bit of a mystery (Bleasdale) the GB squad are missing a number of 'big guns' this season and potential medalists at a championships:" To say that there is no back up when looking for potential medallists when t...
by BigGut
Thu May 29, 2014 11:36 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014
Replies: 31
Views: 2814

Re: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014

jeremy, Just to add to your ridiculousness "PSD, a 53 point 400m hurdler who was an indoor Champion of Europe at 400m " If Perri hadn't been there who would have been Euorpean indoor 400m champion...... Eilidh Child. Your negativity is utterly stupid. Actually since you think our team is s...
by BigGut
Thu May 29, 2014 4:57 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014
Replies: 31
Views: 2814

Re: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014

In some cases it's because this years champs are not the Worlds or Olympics that they are taking a year out, that isn't luck. Isn't it patently obvious that if you are a world level contender you take your break on the year that there is no world level champs? That's why I think it's bunkum. We aren...
by BigGut
Thu May 29, 2014 4:39 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014
Replies: 31
Views: 2814

Re: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014

Jeremy, it's always been thus. Although I take complete exception to your overly negative take on things. PSD is miles superior? We are talking about the Euros here. Last year Eilidh Child was 4th ranked in Europe, remove PSD and she's ranked in a medal position. This year her and Beesley are ranked...
by BigGut
Thu May 29, 2014 1:15 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: GB Big Guns AWOL 2014
Replies: 31
Views: 2814

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Not really, anybody who posted on AD or 606 would already know.
by BigGut
Tue May 20, 2014 11:16 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822

Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

I would have loved to have seen Mo attempt a 1500/Marathon double at the Euros. Firstly because it would show a ridiculous range, secondly so he'd been champion at 1500-Marathon.
by BigGut
Wed May 14, 2014 10:37 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: 2014 Commonwealth Games
Replies: 144
Views: 18765

Re: Zharnel Hughes

What if he moved to Wolverhampton. Then he'd be "more british" than Tessa Sanderson.
by BigGut
Wed May 07, 2014 10:14 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: Zharnel Hughes
Replies: 133
Views: 9235

Re: Steve Way 6:19 100km

The Suomi course prior to 1994 was short, possibly by up to 3k. Don was an exceptional athlete only Kouros and Fordyce on on his level IMHO, but that Hartola performance is probably actually worth a 6:25ish, which is still exceptional.
by BigGut
Sun May 04, 2014 1:26 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: Steve Way 6:19 100km
Replies: 2
Views: 376

Steve Way 6:19 100km

Another british record bit the dust yesterday and whilst it wasn't an Olympic distance it was still a mightily impressive performance. After clocking a surprise PB at London Steve Way obliterated the field to win the Anglo Celtic 100km in 6:19:19 smashing Simon Pride's record set 15 years ago in win...
by BigGut
Sun May 04, 2014 8:30 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: Steve Way 6:19 100km
Replies: 2
Views: 376

Re: British Athletics Coaching and Club Survey

As I have always said coaches should charge the people they work for. In this instance I would guess, and I am not involved in this at all, the scheme will pay the coaches from money paid by those receiving the coaching. If performance coaches want paying then they need to charge the athletes they c...
by BigGut
Fri May 02, 2014 8:34 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: British Athletics Coaching and Club Survey
Replies: 14
Views: 720

Re: British Athletics Coaching and Club Survey

Geoff,

Your last point of it not being comparable with the past is the thing I think will be abused.

Ross
by BigGut
Fri May 02, 2014 11:08 am
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: British Athletics Coaching and Club Survey
Replies: 14
Views: 720

Re: British Athletics Coaching and Club Survey

I am absolutely certain that the survey is a great idea. I just know that certain people and organisations will attempt to hijack the benefit of the survey by stupidly comparing the numbers with total license holders and claiming it shows a ridiculous drop in numbers.... I hope it's not the case but...
by BigGut
Thu May 01, 2014 3:30 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: British Athletics Coaching and Club Survey
Replies: 14
Views: 720

Re: Steve Cram to advise endurance runners for BA

Not that along since U15 was the youngest age group?

There's been U13 since at least 1975 right up to intercounties level.
by BigGut
Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:56 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: Steve Cram to advise endurance runners for BA
Replies: 32
Views: 1530

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Boysen,

It's not the ngb love affair, that is what they are funded to do. They cannot just spend money given to super the elite end to the grass roots. If your issue is the focus of money and posts on the elite then your argument is with UK Sport not UKA.
by BigGut
Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:52 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Hank,

This thread IS about the statistics and yes I do care about their mis-use. I am on thread, I am discussing the 2014 analysis.
by BigGut
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:43 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Hank, The figures show a significant INCREASE in participation yet claim a decrease through a wholly ridiculous assumption. If you consider that to be perfectly acceptable then clearly you don't frankly care about the truth so long as it supports your aims. Further the report gives no benchmark data...
by BigGut
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:01 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

I am not defending UKA. I am trying to have an adult discussion based upon the reality fo the world and the time we actually live in. I am saying that not all of the money could possibly be classified as wasted. That is surely obvious to anybody. So when we know what amount of money could actually h...
by BigGut
Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:59 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Please clarify wasted. How do you get your £300m figure. I assume that you don't consider money spent on teams going to championships as wasted, money spent on facilities to be wasted. I assume you do not count money spent on achieving income or on meeting regulatory requirements wasted. So can you ...
by BigGut
Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:31 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822

Re: A Message to everyone from the Mangement

Can we just be clear. This is not a mesasage from the management to everybody. It's a message from the management to you, because of the way you post. Please do not try and pretend that other posters have behaved as badly as you have. Just to clarify. I am not one of the posters that the management ...
by BigGut
Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:42 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: A Message to everyone from the Mangement
Replies: 7
Views: 800

Re: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f

Boysen. I would expect that the 10th is doing pretty well but that the 50th and 100th are down on where they used to be, in general. This is because there is clearly a decline in particicpation long term. I would saythat this is down to three issues, none of which are athletics specific. Firstly the...
by BigGut
Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:10 pm
 
Forum: Current events (Legacy Only)
Topic: THE 2014 STATISTICAL REVIEW OF BRITISH ATHLETICS T&f
Replies: 103
Views: 5822
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