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  • #68594
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    Taffy
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    From Memory, 2006 wasn’t especially successful for England on the track and only marginally better in the field
    ??
    I remember it followed the WIC in Moscow but was maybe a week or two weeks later? I was on the same plane from Moscow- London – Melbourne as many of the commonwealth athletes who competed in Moscow and were doing both.

    That year Southerton opted for the CWG over WIC. I think maybe only Nathan Douglas attempted both? again this is purely from memory. It was a really small squat in Moscow.

    #68595
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    carterhatch
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    Nice anecdote Taffy…

    I think the fact the CG squad is being selected 6 months in advance, with only an indoor season in between, and the pinnacle of that season being a home World Championships (and I am sure UK Athletics keen for a good showing), adds a different nuance in my view… Those selected for the CG will surely be using the indoors for preparation, which might throw-up two things, performances that could put them inline for selection for the World Indoors (but they have no intention of participating) or there might be injuries, with no chance of a late replacement…

    I am just curious how others think it will pan out, and have made my Women’s selection for team GB World Indoors already, as I think it almost selects itself (just to provoke discussion in the coming weeks…)

    #68606
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    SteveK26
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    I don’t really want to see too many of our elite athletes running 200’s and 400’s indoors.

    I also hope that Muir and Dasher definitely give it the elbow.

    Let Asher Philip and Richard Kilty do their things indoors, together with a few high jumpers and long jumpers.And (as has been said elsewhere) it would be interesting to see Sawyers have a go at triple jump. I have a feeling she might do very well.

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    #68703
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    LuckySpikes
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    In Australia there’s a decent circuit of 7 or 8 professional meetings that normally takes place from late January to mid-March.

    So, I wonder how many of our athletes will give indoors a miss and head down to Oz a couple of months early to get some warm weather training, competition and acclimatisation? It would certainly seem a better way to prepare for the CWG than competing indoors though I can see how they’d be conflicted with a World Indoors taking place on home turf.

    Quite a lot of our distance athletes have good links/friendships with the Aussies via Nic Bideau and the Melbourne Track Club.

    #68704
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    carterhatch
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    You make a very good point about the season down under, Luckyspikes, and that might well fit neatly for athletes selected for the CG.

    I am watching the Great North City Games and I wish some of the post race chat was about plans for 2018, rather than what cake they will be indulging in now the season is over.

    A couple of interesting points… Andrew Cotter mentioned that Bianca Williams will be trying a few indoors 400s… and my own note that PSD did well to win the 500 and I look forward to seeing what she might do next season …

    #68708
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    treadwater1
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    I’ve just had a quick look at some of the medalists from the recent European u23 and u20 championships. How good would it be to see some of the following selected:

    Edoburun, Rowden, Riley-Laborde, Agyapong, Turner, Lucy Bryan

    Lonsdale, Gale, Maya Bruney, Alicia Barrett, Molly Caudery, Ogbeta

    Bruney and Agyapong look very promising and deserve a chance IMO. Hylton and Williams did very little in London. Perhaps Lansiquot will get an invite if one of AP, DH or DN passes up the opportunity. Hopefully Stainton and Emerson will be given their chance too

    #68716
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    carterhatch
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    I was wondering if PSD had the 400 standard for the CG, and so looked at the selection policy linked to http://www.englandathletics.org/england-athletics-news/gold-coast-2018-commonwealth-games-selection-policy

    and it would appear a very tough time, 51.70, which is faster than that required by Team GB for the London World Championships… a typo perhaps? Otherwise, only Emily Diamond has the required time …

    #68720
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    I was wondering if PSD had the 400 standard for the CG, and so looked at the selection policy linked to http://www.englandathletics.org/england-athletics-news/gold-coast-2018-commonwealth-games-selection-policy

    and it would appear a very tough time, 51.70, which is faster than that required by Team GB for the London World Championships… a typo perhaps? Otherwise, only Emily Diamond has the required time …

    The standards for all the field events are a bit easier than for the Worlds but for both men and women a few of the track event standards are actually tougher (e.g., from memory, the men’s 400 & 3000SC and the women’s 200 & 400). Not sure what the rationale is for that.

    #68752
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    From Memory, 2006 wasn’t especially successful for England on the track and only marginally better in the field
    ??
    I remember it followed the WIC in Moscow but was maybe a week or two weeks later? I was on the same plane from Moscow- London – Melbourne as many of the commonwealth athletes who competed in Moscow and were doing both.

    That year Southerton opted for the CWG over WIC. I think maybe only Nathan Douglas attempted both? again this is purely from memory. It was a really small squat in Moscow.

    And lets hope for a very small squad in Birmingham. There may be some nice warm weather and opportunities for some softer medals in Gold Coast but for me the Europeans will be equally significant action next year with good quality field events but slightly less quality in the sprints and distance events.
    Over competition for British athletes has been a feature of the years when Euros and CWG are held with a lot more danger of injuries to athletes.
    A lot will depend on whether the top Kenyans, Jamaicans and South A fricans send their best to Australia.

    #68763
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    SteveK26
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    I see no reason why the top Kenyans, Jamaicans, Canadians, S Africans etc wouldn’t go to the Gold Coast. No European Champs for them. And they will still be able to have a break before going cash-hunting on the Diamond League circuit.
    It will be their prime target, surely?

    The top swimmers will be there, and the competition in the pool is going to be something to savour.

    #68770
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    carterhatch
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    Again, thinking of 2018, what do people consider Desiree Henry should do… listening to her studio interview it seems she recognises she needs to take the confidence of her performance in the relays into her individual events. Now, dont get me wrong, I am no expert, but her technique seems very pronounced to me, as if she has been told to run in a very particular way … and for me it doesn’t seem to work over 100, she seems to lack that explosive start … but might pay dividends over 200…even 400… indeed I cant help but think Merlene Ottey every time I see Ms. Henry as she has a very impressive physique…

    I imagine she will get a CG slot, will pass on the indoors, and I hope focus on the 200 at Euros…

    #68773
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    philipo
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    I see no reason why the top Kenyans, Jamaicans, Canadians, S Africans etc wouldn’t go to the Gold Coast. No European Champs for them. And they will still be able to have a break before going cash-hunting on the Diamond League circuit.
    It will be their prime target, surely?

    The top swimmers will be there, and the competition in the pool is going to be something to savour.

    looking forward more to the swimming next year than the Athletics at CG

    #68775
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    SteveK26
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    Philipo

    The emergence of the Canadians will make the swimming very interesting indeed.

    I hope most of our top athletes target the Gold Coast. It would do them good. Have some fun and see what happens. The Gold Coast is beautiful. I’ve been there three times. If you are going to do a Commonwealths, folks, this is the place to do it. Thousand times better than Birmingham.

    #68776
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    Laps
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    I hope most of our top athletes target the Gold Coast. It would do them good. Have some fun and see what happens. Thousand times better than Birmingham.

    Everyone to their own Steve. Too hot, humid and tourism obsessed for me to want to go anywhere near.
    Sounds truly awful.

    #68778
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    SteveK26
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    Beautiful beaches, brand new stadia purpose built for the Games, great weather guaranteed, Sea World, Wet N’ Wild, Movie World, Surfers Paradise, more ways to entertain your kids (if they like outdoors and are not shackled by their computers) than you could imagine.
    Yeah, sounds truly awful, Laps. Can’t think why anyone would even contemplate it !!

    #68780
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    trevorp
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    Again, thinking of 2018, what do people consider Desiree Henry should do…

    Sort her technique out for a start. As you note, her arm action is asymmetrical and therefore inefficient – the left arm swing is very exaggerated. I can’t understand how she’s got this far without it being corrected. I know some great runners have sometimes had a quirky style with imperfect technique, but Desiree isn’t that good she can afford to ignore obvious opportunities for improvement.

    #68788
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    philipo
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    Beautiful beaches, brand new stadia purpose built for the Games, great weather guaranteed, Sea World, Wet N’ Wild, Movie World, Surfers Paradise, more ways to entertain your kids (if they like outdoors and are not shackled by their computers) than you could imagine.
    Yeah, sounds truly awful, Laps. Can’t think why anyone would even contemplate it !!

    Damn sight better than Birmingham where they cant even remove the refuse!!!

    #68866
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    carterhatch
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    It would be good to keep an eye on what athletes are thinking about with regards to 2018…

    for example, Lily Partridge makes her ambitions known in this link

    Lily Partridge seeks Commonwealths boost in Berlin

    decisions, decisions…

    ps

    Stevek26 … i know you frequent a certain swimming forum, I’m equally looking forward to the event at CG, and trying hard not to get too excited by the emergence of Freya Anderson

    #68895
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    Ladyloz
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    Read in the latest issue of AW that Desirée Henry has been managing a knee injury for a while (certainly explains her mediocre form for much of the season). She is going to decide shortly whether to undergo surgery. If she does go under the knife I guess that may put her participation in the Gold Coast in doubt.

    #68896
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    OccasionalHope
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    Apparently Morgan Lake is going to have another go at heptathlon next year.

    #68897
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    Ursus
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    “One last shot” at the hep. Suspect she already knows that she’ll be a HJ specialist before long.

    #68899
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    OccasionalHope
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    I would have liked her to do the Commonwealths but beacsue she hasn’t done one for so long she won’t have the standard.

    #68900
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    carterhatch
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    talking of qualifying for the Commonwealth Games, you’d have thought it would be interesting for the Power of Ten people to have displayed the standards … it is a small gripe of mine, as I find the Power of Ten an otherwise great resource, but there was a similar delay in uploading the World Championships standards (three ignored emails on the subject, to the ‘administrators’, has rather dampened my desire to do likewise again)

    #68901
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    SteveK26
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    “One last shot” at the hep. Suspect she already knows that she’ll be a HJ specialist before long.

    In 2014 Morgan banged out a 14-85 shot, a 41-66 javelin and a 1-94 HJ.
    She looked every inch a world-class heptathlete in the making, and had the rare ability (at such a young age) to throw so well despite being a natural high-jumper. She was just seventeen years old.

    And that was it. Three years later and no progression in the the shot, a meagre 30 cm improvement in javelin. Is it a flight of fancy to suggest that this girl should by now possess PB’s (in those two events) of around 16 metres and 50 metres ?

    It must be mental not physical, and (dare I suggest) a complete failure of her coaching set up that this 20 year old has stalled. Or has she be injured for the last 3 years?

    #68903
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    SteveK26
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    Compare Lake, and KJT for that matter, to Jess Ennis.

    ‘Tadpole’ emerged and evolved. She overcame her physical limitations by ensuring she became immensely strong without ‘bulking up’. Like Daley Thompson I would bet she could do press-ups, chins and dips all day long.

    Lake and KJT look like they could barely rack up one between them. They look fit, but not strong.

    I would be interested to hear the opinion of a strength coach. Kermit?

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