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  • #59500
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    OccasionalHope
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    Aargh! My 2017 Distance Running Thread has disappeared from the board!!

    New half marathon WR for Joyciline Jepkosgei (64:52) in Prague and 3 World Bests for her en-route!

    It’s all detailed in the missing thread (missing from the list but still exists).

    Some very odd things are going on – my post in reply to this this morning has disappeared too.

    #59501
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    FWIW I was speculating that Joycicline KJepkosgeii’s very impressive HM might be a possible indicator that she might the woman who could break Paula’s marathon WR.

    #59502
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    Zak Seddon ran a PB and qualifying time of 8:30.17 and Marilyn Okoro ran a respectable 2:02.50 both also winning at the Florida Relays.

    Ieuan Thomas also ran a 8.33.68 Steeplechase PB yesterday. Apparently that was with a fall which suggests he’s capable of Worlds standard too. It was however a Wales Commonwealth A standard.

    #59511
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    LuckySpikes
    Your entry 5.46pm 1 april

    I’ve always tried to differenciate between WRs & WBPs, but the IAAF now have lots of events they label WR where before, if my memory serves me right, they were not on their lists ie were WBPs

    see
    https://www.iaaf.org/records/by-category/world-records

    So certainly the IAAF still don’t have records for, for instance, some, for me, exciting events eg
    – 300 (Bolt’s last race should be him v Niekerk)
    – 500 WBP held by a well-down-the-lists athlete Orestes Rodriguez CUB, 59.32 ’13 (one for Rudisha at his peak perhaps)
    – 600 another one for Rudisha, an oldie 1 12 81 Gray USA ’86
    – 3-miles – in 12 mins …

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    Joycicline KJepkosgeii ’93, KEN: 4 WRs
    What improvement
    previous PBs
    5000 15.40 ’16, 16.46.6hA ’15
    10000 31 28.28 ’16
    10km 31.08 ’16
    20km 67.02 ’16
    HM 1.09.07 ’16, 74.06A ’15

    Occasionalhope is right to wonder if Paula’s MAR WR will be her next target.

    #59512
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    Worth noting the athlete who was 2nd in the W HM in Prague

    Violah Jepchumba ’90 KEN
    10km 30.05, 30.24 ’16
    15km 45.40
    20km 1.01.50
    HM 1.05.22, 1.05.51 ’16

    Worth noting too that KEN women took the top 6 places in the recent world X-country champs

    1st in Kampala:
    Irene Chepet Cheptai ’92, KEN
    PBs
    1500 4.13.75 ’14
    3000 8.48.03 ’15
    5000 14.43.42 ’16
    10000 31.15.38 ’16
    10k 32.21

    We might see some improvements from her this season.

    2nd in Kampala:
    Alice Aprot Nawowuna ’94 KEN
    PBs
    3000 8.53.55 ’14
    5000 14.39.56 ’16
    10000 29.53.51 ’16
    10km 31.02 ’15
    15km 48.23 ’16

    Already track significant with the 10000 effort of 4th in Rio OLY.

    So KEN women might challenge ETH’s top women more strongly this season.

    #59539
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    A good start to the season by the athlete with the greatest name in the history of the sport. Step forward Just’N Thymes, a 100 and 200m runner from the US currently running 10.1 & 20.2. How I’d dearly love to hear the commentary on a 4×100 with him on the last leg.

    #59552
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    A good start to the season by the athlete with the greatest name in the history of the sport. Step forward Just’N Thymes, a 100 and 200m runner from the US currently running 10.1 & 20.2. How I’d dearly love to hear the commentary on a 4×100 with him on the last leg.

    He’s no Gaylord Silly

    #59590
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    Sidelined, very good news on Mortimore. Lets hope 77+ becomes his new norm. 5 or 6 metres up on what he threw at the same meets last year.

    In the hammer circle….Nick Miller has opened with 75.58. Let’s hope last year was a bit of an aberration for him. Taylor Campbell, still only 20, has extended his PB to 72.89. Campbell is however a veteran, compared to Jake Norris who is still just 17 and has thrown 68.86, a massive 7m PB, with the senior implement.

    #59613
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    jess judd – 8.52 pb in the 3k according to her twitter

    #59750
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    CJ Ujah ran a 20.39 (1.7) QT in the 200m overnight and 10.29 (-2.9) in the 100m.

    In 400m news George Caddick ran a PB 45.80 in the states and Martyn Rooney ran a season opener of 46.35 behind Kirani James 45.44 in Grenada.

    #59753
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    M 400 new WL – in the ‘B race’ in St George, Grenada meet mentioned above
    44.26 Steven Gardiner, ’95 BAH – NR
    prev NR & PB 44.27 ’15
    He did ‘only’ 44.46 during ’16

    #59788
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    Some new WLs

    M 100 9.88+0.2 Sydney Siame ’97 ZAM 8apr
    prev PB 10.18 ’15

    M HT 81.39 Paweł Fajdek POL 7apr
    pb 83.93 ’15, ’16 sb 82.47

    M DEC HJ record 2.28 7apr
    Derek Drouin, ’90, CAN 7150 PB with 7pbs; prev PB 6592 ’10

    #59791
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    M DEC HJ record 2.28 7apr

    Derek Drouin, ’90, CAN 7150 PB with 7pbs; prev PB 6592 ’10

    M DEC HJ record is one way of putting it.

    As is OG winning HJer jumps 12cm below best in notional decathlon……

    So clearly not a “proper” decathlete (other 9 events averaged 675) that it’d be totally against the spirit to count that as a DEC best. One of the previous co holders at 2.27 – set when winning gold at Seoul – was Christian Schenk who had a best of 8,500. In my eyes the record is his. Although he was German, it was the 1980s……god athletics is complicated.

    #59796
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    A good start to the season by the athlete with the greatest name in the history of the sport. Step forward Just’N Thymes, a 100 and 200m runner from the US currently running 10.1 & 20.2. How I’d dearly love to hear the commentary on a 4×100 with him on the last leg.

    He’s no Gaylord Silly

    Gaylord follows me on Twitter! His bio reads “Silly say ambition is to make my father Bumbino proud, to run a good race and to chop down a good tree”!

    Both of them however, are nowhere near as bad as the American swimmer Misty Hymen…..

    #59797
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    Ursus
    re DEC HJ: I don’t totally disagree, and for instance on the GBR all-time list 77 athletes have bettered Druin’s DEC total.

    So how do we decide if a multi-event should be seen as the best-in-one-of-the-events? Should their multi-event total be over a certain figure for instance? eg should only DEC athletes be considered who score over 8000?

    #59799
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    Ursus
    So how do we decide if a multi-event should be seen as the best-in-one-of-the-events? Should their multi-event total be over a certain figure for instance? eg should only DEC athletes be considered who score over 8000?

    It should be, surely, the competitor has competed in the decathlon & recorded such a mark? You can’t say Drouin’s HJ is not the best Decathlon High Jump ever, when it is!

    #59809
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    Camerajuan, your logic is impeccable, but nonetheless….

    Dpickup. I’d suggest that the marks should only count in a decathlon that is either representative above a certain level or invitational subject to a minimum entry standard.

    #59810
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    but as is said the devil is in the detail
    – representative – in what? at what level?
    – a certain level – what level
    – invitational – to the Lambeth annual athletics gala …

    Perhaps a look at the current event records of DEC HEP PEN … events might help us, or confuse us …

    M DEC ‘wrs’
    100 10.15 Damian Warner CAN 28.05.16
    LJ 8.23 Ashton Eaton/USA 06/23/12
    SP 19.17 Edy Hubacher/SUI 10/04/69
    HJ 2.27 Rolf Bielschmidt/GDR 09/30/77
    ——— Christian Schenk/GDR 09/28/88
    400 45.00 Eaton 28aug15
    110H 13.47 Frank Busemann/GER 08/01/96
    DT 55.87 Bryan Clay/USA 06/24/05
    PV 5.76 Tim Lobinger/GER 09/16/99
    JT 79.80 Peter Blank/GER 07/19/92
    1500m 3:58.7 Robert Baker/USA 04/03/80
    W HEP ‘wrs’
    100H 12.54 Jessica Ennis/GBR London 6955 2012
    HJ 1.98 Tia Hellebut/BEL Gotzis 6201 2006
    SP 20.79 Eva Wilms/GER [pen]
    — 17.31 Austra Skujyte/LTU [hep] 2008
    200 22.30 Jackie Joyner-Kersee/USA 1988
    LJ 7.27 Jackie Joyner-Kersee/USA 1988
    JT 60.90m Barbara Spotakova/CZE 2012
    800 2:01.84 Nadine DeBois/FRA 1987

    #59811
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    Tessa Sanderson threw the javelin 64.64 during her 6125 heptathlon in Brussels in 1981, but old-specification javelin performances are routinely overlooked.

    (13.72; 12.78; 1.63; 24.89; 5.97; 64.64; 2:26.20)

    #59813
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    Janis Lusis was also a good decathlete. Dave Travis was AAA decathlon champion. A lot of individual event specialists also had good decathlon scores.

    The usual cut-off for decathlon best performances is 7000 points

    #59814
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    I think all the Decathlon event ‘WRs’ listed include the proviso that the athlete scored over 7000 points. I suspect a similar criterion applies to the heptathlon (perhaps 5000).

    I suppose if you counted any score within a completed decathlon, you could get the situation where a guy who has a 3:45 1500 PB (nothing special in international terms) could do no more than start the other 3 track races and do a single half-hearted attempt in the field events before going into the 1500m pretty confident that he could beat 3:58.7 in a virtual time trial.

    #59815
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    Took a while to find it but Lusis threw 81.04 with the old javelin during a 7402 decathlon.

    #59869
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    LuckySpikes
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    The World Challenge ‘circuit’ has taken a bit of a hit this year such that it looks quite sparse. No Melbourne, Beijing or Rieti taking place this year. Surely Melbourne would have been an opportunity to see what, if any, effect Nitro had on attendance? Rieti was cancelled last year because of resources being diverted to the nearby earthquake but I’m surprised to see it not back on the calendar given what a historic meeting it is.

    #59935
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    Good start to the season for Rana Reider’s group.

    Schippers ran 10.95; Desiree Henry 11.09

    Adam Gemili 10.08 (his quickest ever opener) & Sani Brown (who’s still only 18) 10.18

    #59937
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    Desiree Henry looked impressive – she was running in a heat where the second finisher came in in 11.7 or close. so not pressured at all. She’s looking amazing at the moment.

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